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<blockquote data-quote="JeepJeep" data-source="post: 8030793" data-attributes="member: 60660"><p>Jeez....</p><p></p><p></p><p>But the Pentagon appeared to reject the proposal, saying it was not “tenable”.</p><p></p><p>In a statement, the US Department of Defense said the prospect of the jets departing from the base “to fly into airspace that is contested with Russia over <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/ukraine" target="_blank">Ukraine</a> raises serious concerns for the entire Nato alliance”.</p><p></p><p>Advertisement</p><p></p><p>“We will continue to consult with Poland and our other Nato allies about this issue and the difficult logistical challenges it presents, but we do not believe Poland’s proposal is a tenable one,” John Kirby, the Pentagon press secretary, said.</p><p></p><p>Poland is thought to have 28 of the Soviet-era warplanes, and had been in negotiation with the Biden administration on a three-way deal in which Warsaw would gave the planes to Ukraine, on condition that the US would provide the Polish air force with newer US fighters.</p><p></p><p>“Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities,” Rau said in a <a href="https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/statement-of-the-minister-of-foreign-affairs-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-connection-with-the-statement-by-the-us-secretary-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine" target="_blank">statement on his ministry’s website</a>. “Poland is ready to immediately establish the conditions of purchase of the planes.”</p><p></p><p>Rau requested other Nato allies with MiG-29 jets – a reference to Slovakia and Bulgaria – “act in the same vein”.</p><p></p><p>By handing them to the US, Poland is hoping to mitigate the risk of direct retaliation from <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/russia" target="_blank">Russia</a>.</p><p></p><p>However, the US under secretary of state for political affairs, Victoria Nuland, said the Polish announcement had taken Washington unawares, calling it a “surprise move by the Poles”.</p><p></p><p>“To my knowledge, it wasn’t pre-consulted with us that they plan to give these planes to us,” Nuland told Congress. “I look forward when this hearing is over to getting back to my desk and seeing how we will respond to this proposal of theirs to give the planes to us.”</p><p></p><p>Advertisement</p><p></p><p>The idea of donating old warplanes to Ukraine was <a href="https://euobserver.com/world/154450" target="_blank">raised on 27 February</a> by the EU foreign and security policy chief, Josep Borrell, who declared: “We are going to provide even fighter jets.” That announcement annoyed Polish officials, who said Warsaw was not properly consulted over a move that could expose the country to risk.</p><p></p><p>The Russian defence ministry did not address the issue directly but warned that any country that provided air fields for Ukrainian warplanes that were later used against Russians would be considered by Moscow as being involved in the conflict. Polish thinking is that when the planes are delivered to Ukrainian pilots, they will be taking off from an air base in Germany as US assets.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JeepJeep, post: 8030793, member: 60660"] Jeez.... But the Pentagon appeared to reject the proposal, saying it was not “tenable”. In a statement, the US Department of Defense said the prospect of the jets departing from the base “to fly into airspace that is contested with Russia over [URL='https://www.theguardian.com/world/ukraine']Ukraine[/URL] raises serious concerns for the entire Nato alliance”. Advertisement “We will continue to consult with Poland and our other Nato allies about this issue and the difficult logistical challenges it presents, but we do not believe Poland’s proposal is a tenable one,” John Kirby, the Pentagon press secretary, said. Poland is thought to have 28 of the Soviet-era warplanes, and had been in negotiation with the Biden administration on a three-way deal in which Warsaw would gave the planes to Ukraine, on condition that the US would provide the Polish air force with newer US fighters. “Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities,” Rau said in a [URL='https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/statement-of-the-minister-of-foreign-affairs-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-connection-with-the-statement-by-the-us-secretary-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine']statement on his ministry’s website[/URL]. “Poland is ready to immediately establish the conditions of purchase of the planes.” Rau requested other Nato allies with MiG-29 jets – a reference to Slovakia and Bulgaria – “act in the same vein”. By handing them to the US, Poland is hoping to mitigate the risk of direct retaliation from [URL='https://www.theguardian.com/world/russia']Russia[/URL]. However, the US under secretary of state for political affairs, Victoria Nuland, said the Polish announcement had taken Washington unawares, calling it a “surprise move by the Poles”. “To my knowledge, it wasn’t pre-consulted with us that they plan to give these planes to us,” Nuland told Congress. “I look forward when this hearing is over to getting back to my desk and seeing how we will respond to this proposal of theirs to give the planes to us.” Advertisement The idea of donating old warplanes to Ukraine was [URL='https://euobserver.com/world/154450']raised on 27 February[/URL] by the EU foreign and security policy chief, Josep Borrell, who declared: “We are going to provide even fighter jets.” That announcement annoyed Polish officials, who said Warsaw was not properly consulted over a move that could expose the country to risk. The Russian defence ministry did not address the issue directly but warned that any country that provided air fields for Ukrainian warplanes that were later used against Russians would be considered by Moscow as being involved in the conflict. Polish thinking is that when the planes are delivered to Ukrainian pilots, they will be taking off from an air base in Germany as US assets. [/QUOTE]
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