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Winston Churchill was a passionate supporter of the free market who walked out of the Tory party
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<blockquote data-quote="Danllan" data-source="post: 6007132" data-attributes="member: 8735"><p>Can't say what Churchill's view on the current situation would be, he was unpredictable at the best of times... but I think it fair to say that we can make an educated guess.</p><p></p><p>I think an examination of Churchill's character indicates that four things would be key to his decision making in this matter: ambition, both personal and national; belief in destiny; distrust of 'the other'; instinct.</p><p></p><p>He clearly wanted what he thought was best for the UK and what was left of the Empire etc., and I am certain that this would have meant - by his measure - being part of a large block, ideally running it, but being a significant player in any case. He was a pragmatist when he had to be, and would have seen that the UK could not continue to be a global power alone. That would have left four options for the UK, closer ties with: the Empire etc.; the USSR; close allying with the US; Europe.</p><p></p><p>We can discount the USSR immediately for obvious reasons. Despite his WWII proposal for the UK and France to become one country - I did mention unpredictability... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> - his past form would indicate a deep mistrust of Europe and France and Germany in particular. Add to that the fact that it would clearly be impossible to lead Europe with the roughly equivalent powers of Germany and France also in it, and no massive benefit to trump that, and I think he would have rejected the UK <em>integrating</em> with Europe.</p><p></p><p>That leaves the 'English speaking peoples' - and <u>his</u> use of that term speaks volumes. I guess he would have recognised that the US would utterly dominate the UK if it got too close - at too early a stage - and I think this would have repelled him from getting very close to the US at first. Therefore... I think Churchill would have pushed very hard for the 'White' parts of the Empire and Commonwealth to become as one, maybe even as one country and probably on a federal basis. All this with the <u>very</u> long-term view of eventual union with the US.</p><p></p><p>But, who knows? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Danllan, post: 6007132, member: 8735"] Can't say what Churchill's view on the current situation would be, he was unpredictable at the best of times... but I think it fair to say that we can make an educated guess. I think an examination of Churchill's character indicates that four things would be key to his decision making in this matter: ambition, both personal and national; belief in destiny; distrust of 'the other'; instinct. He clearly wanted what he thought was best for the UK and what was left of the Empire etc., and I am certain that this would have meant - by his measure - being part of a large block, ideally running it, but being a significant player in any case. He was a pragmatist when he had to be, and would have seen that the UK could not continue to be a global power alone. That would have left four options for the UK, closer ties with: the Empire etc.; the USSR; close allying with the US; Europe. We can discount the USSR immediately for obvious reasons. Despite his WWII proposal for the UK and France to become one country - I did mention unpredictability... :rolleyes: - his past form would indicate a deep mistrust of Europe and France and Germany in particular. Add to that the fact that it would clearly be impossible to lead Europe with the roughly equivalent powers of Germany and France also in it, and no massive benefit to trump that, and I think he would have rejected the UK [I]integrating[/I] with Europe. That leaves the 'English speaking peoples' - and [U]his[/U] use of that term speaks volumes. I guess he would have recognised that the US would utterly dominate the UK if it got too close - at too early a stage - and I think this would have repelled him from getting very close to the US at first. Therefore... I think Churchill would have pushed very hard for the 'White' parts of the Empire and Commonwealth to become as one, maybe even as one country and probably on a federal basis. All this with the [U]very[/U] long-term view of eventual union with the US. But, who knows? :) [/QUOTE]
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