BT should sell Openreach

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
All I can say is that you are a heavy data user.
You are probably paying about £15 each for them even month and if you use the data in a week you are effectively paying £60/month.

I suppose if it is essential for the business or if you just generally happy with that being the only practical answer to your needs, fair enough. I honestly thought that BT had long installed fibre to the cabinet at Cilcennin, which is near enough to you to have fast broadband through the copper cable I'd have thought. Maybe not? Yet.
We are on BT fibre now, get totally unlimited for around £20 month, we were paying a £100 month on satellite and 3 G for a perthetic download that was restricted also
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
You can get 50gig a month for £30 4g with EE.

I still say BT have failed miserably. How many millions were they given by the government to bring things up to scratch? The improvements in Wales are not seen over the border, the Assembly has paid them for this.
Things are not up to scratch.
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Best one here.

Wind brings down the overhead cable to 15 properties including ours,straddles a road.

Police come and sit there until open reach arrive.

Sunday morning so goy gets the cutters out and cuts the cable and rolls it up:facepalm:

After a few days with no cable another open reach guy turns up and explains that it could have been winched back up to the pole and refitted.

This was November.

Currently we have cable strewn along the hedge in our field with two joints.

They may have it done by harvest time when we will have to run over it with the silage wagon.

Had similar here. Wire holding line up gave way one side. So messaged openreach who did nothing to replace a retaining wire. Maybe an hour job. 18 months later the other side have way leaving the telephone line across the road. Openreach cut the wire, join in a piece and its now stewn in the hedge and across gateways. Bet when they cut out the extension it gets binned!

Similar story with a line that was affected by an overgrown hedge. Instead of cutting the hedge, owner doesnt want it cut but wants a telephone, they move the pole to my hedge. 12 months plus it took me to get it moved, threatening to cut the pole down. This according to openreach is criminal damage but digging someones hedge down and placing a 16ft pole and tresspass is ok!!!

Openrreach/BT are dinasaurs!
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
You can get 50gig a month for £30 4g with EE.

I still say BT have failed miserably. How many millions were they given by the government to bring things up to scratch? The improvements in Wales are not seen over the border, the Assembly has paid them for this.
Things are not up to scratch.

Ive had to said to me from folks in the Know that The Gov had funded every house in the country upto £3,000 to sort faster BB
if thats the case wheres mine ??
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
I have never heard a mention of Broadband over NFU lips, something they could do to help farmers who diversity and need good Internet access, if you shout load enough you would be heard
 

Paddington

Member
Location
Soggy Shropshire
We had a problem losing broadband two or three times a day, BT put it down to our computer and suggested we buy a new one. Finally got an Openreach engineer out with the threat of a £130 call out charge if it was our equipment at fault. There was a fault on the line but he couldn't find it. We mentioned that the fault often coincided with the windy weather we were having and were told it was nothing to do with it. Another few days went by and another engineer came out and asked what the first one had done ? We couldn't tell him but said he'd spent over an hour looking for the fault. Second man found the cable in the junction box on the house wall hanging by a thread, it had never been checked.
I wouldn't trust some of them with two tin cans and a length of string.
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
We are on BT fibre now, get totally unlimited for around £20 month, we were paying a £100 month on satellite and 3 G for a perthetic download that was restricted also
You may be on a so called Fibre deal but i'll bet its not Fibre actually coming into your property?
So then you still have to pay line rental just to have a landline...
Even if you manage to get a true Fibre Link via BT i get they would still try & charge there Line rental charge ontop....
Annoyingly as long as there is even say 100metres of copper wire coming into your property BT will always want Line Rental...
But if for instance your on that amazing B4RN Fibre Network you need never have anything ever to do with BT ever again.
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
You may be on a so called Fibre deal but i'll bet its not Fibre actually coming into your property?
So then you still have to pay line rental just to have a landline...
Even if you manage to get a true Fibre Link via BT i get they would still try & charge there Line rental charge ontop....
Annoyingly as long as there is even say 100metres of copper wire coming into your property BT will always want Line Rental...
But if for instance your on that amazing B4RN Fibre Network you need never have anything ever to do with BT ever again.
There is actually two miles,of copper from the cabinet to here,
To be honest if I was paying £100 a month it would be worth it, to get a decent speed without a restricted used is truly amazing to what we had before
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
There is actually two miles,of copper from the cabinet to here,
To be honest if I was paying £100 a month it would be worth it, to get a decent speed without a restricted used is truly amazing to what we had before
Lucky you !!!
so would i pay the same... but Still Bin BT !!!!
its as priceless to modern life as the Mains Electric & Water Supply funny enough both weve had for over 50years
 
BT and Openreach are a complete disaster. In the days pre BT trees were trimmed to ensure lines did not get damaged. Now lines get damaged or come down, you phone India, they tell you all sorts of crap including it'll cost you if it's not their problem, then someone eventually will turn up sometime, tell you he needs specialist equipment (a ladder or hoist) and then won't be seen again for a month.

As usual rural customers are treated like some sort of underclass to the urban elite as far as BB goes. The claim that it's too expensive, shouldn't be subsidised by others and all the rest is complete tosh; if that were the case we wouldn't have roads, doctors and schools in rural areas either. Of course it's never too expensive to string electricity cables from the windfarms in the countryside to the urban elite, funny that!

Nothing is going to change, people with broadband are to get even faster broadband and people with no broadband are to get nothing and pay more for it.
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
BT and Openreach are a complete disaster. In the days pre BT trees were trimmed to ensure lines did not get damaged. Now lines get damaged or come down, you phone India, they tell you all sorts of crap including it'll cost you if it's not their problem, then someone eventually will turn up sometime, tell you he needs specialist equipment (a ladder or hoist) and then won't be seen again for a month.

As usual rural customers are treated like some sort of underclass to the urban elite as far as BB goes. The claim that it's too expensive, shouldn't be subsidised by others and all the rest is complete tosh; if that were the case we wouldn't have roads, doctors and schools in rural areas either. Of course it's never too expensive to string electricity cables from the windfarms in the countryside to the urban elite, funny that!

Nothing is going to change, people with broadband are to get even faster broadband and people with no broadband are to get nothing and pay more for it.

well said.... and boy is it so so TRUE all of it...
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
Lucky you !!!
so would i pay the same... but Still Bin BT !!!!
its as priceless to modern life as the Mains Electric & Water Supply funny enough both weve had for over 50years
Until we get full underground fibre our above ground lines will be problematic and need constant maintenance, keeping BT as a provider means even though they are pretty useless I don't have to deal with a second company to get to them, after all BT are responsible for line maintenance for all providers
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
i agree with some of that but theres a fair bit of UK Comms infrastructure IE Fibre Cables that run up n down the country
That are nowt to do with BT
VIRGIN MEDIA being one of them

Its very frustrating that there is spare DARK FIBRES as there called are running within 1.5miles of my farm yet we have no way of accessing them
DARK FIBRES are unused splices of Fibre Cabling that have no connection as such.
Just lying in the Duct next to all the hundreds that are being used.
 

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