To tough to Mole 5 yr dd field

Matt L · Aug 26, 2016

tr250 said:
Why should the moler not pull down on tractor it's not as if the tractor is lifting it its just the forward pull on the arms that pulls the tractor wheels onto the ground. Maidwell moler mounted takes some beating can back into ditches and lift up and let it ride out at the ends

Because if there are forces being applied to the tractor other than just a dead pull, when the tractor goes over lumps or crosses ruts it can lead to a jump in the mole which is not good.

Same reason why you must never stop with the mole in the ground unless you are just downhill of a drain

Kevtherev · Aug 26, 2016

Best way of moling if the going is tough

mikep · Aug 26, 2016

Kevtherev said:
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Best way of moling if the going is tough

Dead right steel tracks are the mutts nuts for this only make sure the shear bolts are working or you will see how easily steel can bend. One of the nicest sounds used to be a CAT D something moling in the evening, big cylinders slow revs like it's namesake purring.
PS only use for mounted moles is pulling cable or pipes in not drainage, they are a mechanical oxymoron

Matt L · Aug 26, 2016

yellow belly · Sep 3, 2016

I have done spring crop moleing for the last 3 years using a twin leg on300hp tractor with a rear weight and a full front weight

the twin leg takes out the tractor wheelings and I have only noticed a crop loss when the seed had got a shoot on it
a week after drilling is no problem it is dryer on the top than moleing pre drilling leaving less disturbance
at 2.4 m apart the tractor wheels 1.5 m of soil on a 4.8 m pass 31 % so if there was a 105 yield loss on the wheeling it would amount to a 3% loss on the field moling in the spring is 30 % easier than the autumn when it is often too dry later autumn moleing has problem if the mole cannot harden before field capacity is reached in the winter

Matt L · Sep 4, 2016

Only problem with spring moling is you don't get the fracturing effect and therefore less percolation of the water. It does however make for a stronger mole.

As always farming is a compromise

Bill Turtle · Sep 6, 2016

Hard , hot work for the tractor at the moment.

Ruston3w · Sep 6, 2016

must be getting dry down there? Whats the horse called? please don't blow it up or Tony will never get here to my D6 manifold.

Richard

Bill Turtle · Sep 6, 2016

That is s D7f (power shift). A lot more steady today than our D6d which is out contracting. Moisture at mole depth is acceptable on that field. Are you talking about the same Tony (C)?

Ruston3w · Sep 7, 2016

He called in here few weeks ago to look at my D6 exhaust manifold ,seemed like he was up and running again. Did he say he fitted some good pattern manifold sections on your tractor or have I got that wrong?

Bill Turtle · Sep 7, 2016

I would have to look at my invoices to remember what has been done. We had to replace a turbo on one of the tractors because it came loose and damaged the housing. That may have involved the manifold. I find him an excellent engineer. Very methodical and patient. I have used him for jobs on several machines now including our Merlo telehandler.

Simon C · Sep 8, 2016

My contractor moling grass seed stubble. Very dry on top but perfect in the clay below where the mole is being formed. Ten years completely undisturbed no-till and he says it is pulling so easily, the tractor doesn't know there is anything on the back.

Bill Turtle · Sep 8, 2016

I bet you don't wear much steel moling your ground Simon. Is that land above or below sea level?

Simon C · Sep 9, 2016

We actually call this Hill Field, you can see there is a bit of a slope in the first picture but by the time it gets to the bottom, it is below sea level. Above sea level there is about six inches of top soil over yellow clay, then down below it is just grey clay with no top soil. When I did moving myself, the wearing parts lasted for several years, trouble was that wedges, pins and bolts were all rusted up and were a devil to change.

Ruston3w · Sep 9, 2016

Does anybody still bother to mole hilly land uphill do you think? I once did some narrow work(6'?) all one way for orchard planting.....they paid accordingly but I remember being pretty fed up by the end of it.

mikep · Sep 9, 2016

Ruston3w said:
Does anybody still bother to mole hilly land uphill do you think? I once did some narrow work(6'?) all one way for orchard planting.....they paid accordingly but I remember being pretty fed up by the end of it.

Not unless they dont get out much!
I think it was one of those ideas that actually seems fine in theory but really doesnt stack up once the water is in the drain it will go as fast as the fall allows, if you want to slow it down on a good slope run at an angle and pull intercepts where neccessary. These can be renewed easily if needed.

Bill Turtle · Sep 12, 2016

We are not suffering with the rusted bolt syndrome here Simon.

Andrew K · Sep 16, 2016

You got the best from that blade Bill!

Bill Turtle · Sep 16, 2016

Yes, but I don't think it amounted to many acres. I took a picture because I have never seen a blade wear to that point without twisting or snapping.

Cutlerstom · Sep 17, 2016

topless_matt said:
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I've gone away from contractor with d8. Partly because of cost of low loader to move it a few hundred years down the road, partly because the steel tracks cause too much surface compaction which then needs rectifying with a deeper than I'd like cultivation

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