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- Darlington
Belted Galloways? Cheap to buy, cheap to keep.Hate sheds and niche market
Conundrum . . .
- Thread starter CopperBeech
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spin cycle
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- north norfolk
dexters are cheap...put angus on them to grade up...ORR....open a 'cow sanctuary'
...sorry
...sorry
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- South West
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- Ceredigion, wales
wasted years
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- Cumbrian born and bread
What about rearing b and white calves and nipping them , running them up to bullocks.
Sell as you build up numbers at any time to create xashflow .
Sell as you build up numbers at any time to create xashflow .
We've got 30 running on ten acres. I make that 1200 odd to do the job. Obviously less in the second year.
Cattle are a wonderful way to build capital, but a really terrible way to make a cash profit. That can only mean the rest of your business is going to be financing that capital. Stick to sheep.
CopperBeech
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I think we need to see a pic just to be sure
Do go on. . . . like I said, i'm no cattle man, but i'm game.
Ps. when I say i'm no cattle man, we've 250 beef stores at one place, along with 200 dairy heifers, and 80 native sucklers and calves at another. So I know how to work with them and look after them, just not how to make money from them lol.
CopperBeech
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One thing to note - no one is going to be upset if its 'lightly grazed' as ultimately its low input ground, permanent pasture etc. Some of it is 'herb rich meadows'. To be fair, plenty of yarrow, plantain, chicory etc.
wasted years
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I'm not sure how anyone can build capital while not making a profit but I'm sure you know best.
Not.
wasted years
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The beauty of B and W's is that you can buy them weaned , nip them and put them straight onto grass with I would suggest some dry feed to keep them going at a reasonable rate.
If winter isn't severe and they are old enough to do it you could outwinter them on 450 acres again with a few kg's of dry feed .
If winter isn't severe and they are old enough to do it you could outwinter them on 450 acres again with a few kg's of dry feed .
I was referring to the rest of the business financing the cattle. Not written in an overly concise way, as you've summed up perfectly, and so delicately.
It's all in the valuation
wasted years
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Northern diplomacy at work.
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- Fife
Is that what it is? I must use that line next time the wife accuses me of being a pansy lol.
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- N.Lincs
With the current price of store cattle, it's going to be a massive investment to stock 450 acres at one go. As has been said before, a return from that initial investment will be a long time coming.
IMHO what you need is @unlacedgecko's sheep business model and adapt it to cattle. That will get you instant income and hopefully let you build up your own cattle numbers.
The big stumbling block will be TB.
Good luck - it's a good problem to have.
IMHO what you need is @unlacedgecko's sheep business model and adapt it to cattle. That will get you instant income and hopefully let you build up your own cattle numbers.
The big stumbling block will be TB.
Good luck - it's a good problem to have.
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- Ardrossan Ayrshire
Could you not get a deal from a market? Have heard of markets financing cattle bought through them on the proviso that they are sold through them. Worth an enquiry surely?
CopperBeech
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Thats largely the route i'm going down to be fair, looking for someone to send me a bunch of stores . . . .
CopperBeech
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- A Welsh man lost in England
That would be interesting . . . . .
sherg
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- shropshire
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It might be instant income but I'm not so sure about profit! lol
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Answer your phone and I'll send you some b & w steers!