Oilseed Rape after Beans

RBM

Member
Arable Farmer
Very popular method in Australia, a lot makes sense with it if combining is not delayed obviously! Could be a good double break!
 
@Jim Bullock did this and reported good results.

The worry is obviously getting them harvested early enough. We wouldn't normally have them cut in time. Winter beans have a different type of sclerotinia to WOSR so that's not a problem. Whether slugs would build up too much I'm not sure.
 

Fuzzy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
@Jim Bullock did this and reported good results.

The worry is obviously getting them harvested early enough. We wouldn't normally have them cut in time. Winter beans have a different type of sclerotinia to WOSR so that's not a problem. Whether slugs would build up too much I'm not sure.
I am not so concerned about harvest, I don't think we are going to see a late harvest this year but I think the ground conditions could be a bigger issue, particularly if we have a lot of hot weather that bake the ground at the wrong time !! Plan is to use my own tined direct drill again as I have had good results in the past.
The crops are clean at the moment and the only worry is a few oats on one patch, I guess aramo should take them out .
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I'd say that broad leafed weeds would be an issue but if yours are clean at the moment & the canopy is closing you should be ok. Just the osr drilling timing to worry about. Are yours winter beans?
 

Fuzzy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
I'd say that broad leafed weeds would be an issue but if yours are clean at the moment & the canopy is closing you should be ok. Just the osr drilling timing to worry about. Are yours winter beans?[/quot
BLW are not a big issue in these fields (a bit of speedwell in places), acreage is split roughly 50/50 between spring and winters. The conventional drilled (winter) ones have closed in quite well, the DD ones (drilled a few weeks later) are gonna struggle to close in..
 

Hesstondriver

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
Would it be an option to do it the other way around? Osr then beans , I realise the osr won't benefit from the N but there is a big time gap between harvest and beanddrilling.
I would imagine a stonking crop of wheat after !!
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I'm not up to speed with herbicides in beans, having not grown them for a couple of years. What can you control brassica weeds with in beans?
 

RBM

Member
Arable Farmer
I'm not up to speed with herbicides in beans, having not grown them for a couple of years. What can you control brassica weeds with in beans?
Bassagran and that's about it. Depends on the weather with it as well as it can be hit and miss, nice sunny days and it seems to work better.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Tine drill in chopped bean straw? Can hang on if it's damp. But many people seem to use tine drills where I would not. Maybe I need a better chopper or a baler.

Here it would be hopelessly late to drill OSR after beans. I don't think slugs would be a problem. Residual weed killer might be a problem. And can you get the volunteer beans out of the OSR?
 

RBM

Member
Arable Farmer
Tine drill in chopped bean straw? Can hang on if it's damp. But many people seem to use tine drills where I would not. Maybe I need a better chopper or a baler.

Here it would be hopelessly late to drill OSR after beans. I don't think slugs would be a problem. Residual weed killer might be a problem. And can you get the volunteer beans out of the OSR?
Shield or Galera in the spring, at least they would keep fixing some N!
 
Ready made cover crop of osr volunteers.
Instead of direct drilling beans into over wintered stubble as we have the last 3 years , we have included hybrid grass seed in our spring sown arable silage mix. Idea is cut the whole crop in august , graze sheep on the clean grazing over winter and roundup of in the spring and drill beans.Should make a good entry for wheat.
 

Fuzzy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Tine drill in chopped bean straw? Can hang on if it's damp. But many people seem to use tine drills where I would not. Maybe I need a better chopper or a baler.

Here it would be hopelessly late to drill OSR after beans. I don't think slugs would be a problem. Residual weed killer might be a problem. And can you get the volunteer beans out of the OSR?
The only sprays used so far are Aramo, Basagran and insecticide.
I realise a very wet or delayed harvest could be a problem, but I'm just trying to make sure I haven't missed any obvious (to others) issues!
My direct drill is on 15" row spacing for rape and 10" when I drill beans, trash flow is not normally a problem
 

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