One thing I can never understand with dairy is that when the milk price drops through global markets/over supply there is an outcry in the dairy industry (protests/blockades), but when the same happens in any other part of British agriculture we do nothing and just get on with it.
Dairy farmers help me!!
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Bossfarmer
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im pretty sure if subs are removed completely you will get a similar response
Suckler cow 500 gross margin if good.
Dairy cow 1200 if good.
Overheads would be a lot higher on dairy at 600 a cow leaving 600 net profit, Sucklers would probably be 250 leaving 250 net profit.
Dairy cow 1200 if good.
Overheads would be a lot higher on dairy at 600 a cow leaving 600 net profit, Sucklers would probably be 250 leaving 250 net profit.
Overheads are generally 50% of gross margin.
Big variations from farm to farm of course.
Big variations from farm to farm of course.
Bossfarmer
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So a big big difference in net profit, you could prob fit a lot more dairy cows on a farm too as they dont need to be grazed
Read a couple pages of this thread, and makes me realise just how much fiction is involved in the advice on here!
I really hope the majority of advice here is ignored/gets an experienced reality check!
P.s. Something about Grass and it being Greener!!!!!!! You have been warned!
I really hope the majority of advice here is ignored/gets an experienced reality check!
P.s. Something about Grass and it being Greener!!!!!!! You have been warned!
Frodo
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Is that not because advice has to be focused and the range between good and average is massive let alone good and poor.
I spent a bit of time reading the farm income figures for dairies. You can fairly easily work out the top ones are making 6 figures and probably as long as you like cows have a fairly nice life. The bottom ones are actually loosing nearly the same.
Your advice will depend a bit of where you are on that range and where you think boss farmer fits.
buffalo_soldier
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I wouldn't be too worried about accuracy.
Some of the replies last time he had a thread like this were works of art.
Some of the replies last time he had a thread like this were works of art.
Remember also @Bossfarmer that dairy is one hell of a tie and good staff are as rare as hens teeth.
If you invest you have to invest for 15 years really minimum. Be careful.
If you invest you have to invest for 15 years really minimum. Be careful.
Bossfarmer
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a lot of dairy cattle feed is bought in plus im producing 1500t of grain, also i would prob take 3/4 cuts of silage rather than 1?Still need feeding though and you need to have the acres to grow the feed
Bossfarmer
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true, it just seems that the income from dairy once you get up to a decent number is better than anything else in AG
Bossfarmer
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surely not many will be losing 6 figures or they wouldnt last long?
Bossfarmer
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at those kind of figures youd be better employing an expert to run it even if it cost 40k
Are you able to take 3/4 cuts?
Bossfarmer
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dont see why not its all young silage ground i rotate the grass with the arable
It is without doubt. But it is a hell of a tie, everyday, 365 days a year, breakdowns on a Sunday mornings when everywhere is closed to get it fixed, cows calving with milk fever on Friday nights when you've arranged to go out with friends, gold plated supermarket contracts that only the luckiest get offered. I wouldn't' go into it if I was in your shoes, I only do it because I have a big mortgage and nothing else in AG would pay it. I'll swop farms with you if you like lol
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And thats where the problems lie, another dairy farmer who thinks employing an 'expert' will pave his fields with gold, you will need to employ good staff not experts.After reading the threads that you have started I feel that dairy farming is probably not the right progression for you and your farm business because if it takes this long for you to decide whether its for you or not, you'll be in a right pickle when snap decisions have be made whilst at the coal face as it were !!!!
And to be honest around here good Cowman are on 40k and there not even managers just foreman if you like
Will Blackburn
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Not really as random as you suggest. More to do with logistics.