BVD beef. Safe to eat?

Northeastfarmer · Dec 12, 2017

Recoil said:
They are in a completely seperate shed from the other animals across a yard. How would they spread the infection to the others? Serious question.

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Your clothes.....your wellies....your hands

exmoor dave · Dec 12, 2017

Recoil said:
Be a bugger to clean it up afterwards too [emoji23]

Chainsaw would be even worse. .......judging by bro's chain after he decided to remove some flesh from his leg

Hilly · Dec 12, 2017

dog food.

Henarar · Dec 12, 2017

I have lifted two big bullocks 800kg with the loader for someone that done then at home, the chap that cut them up split them with a chainsaw, hang a sheet up from the loader so it don't fly all over the tractor its very sticky LOL

Hilly · Dec 12, 2017

Henarar said:
I have lifted two big bullocks 800kg with the loader for someone that done then at home, the chap that cut them up split them with a chainsaw, hang a sheet up from the loader so it don't fly all over the tractor its very sticky LOL

ruff as, hope he didnt have chain oil in the saw lol.

Recoil · Dec 12, 2017

exmoor dave said:
Chainsaw would be even worse. .......judging by bro's chain after he decided to remove some flesh from his leg

Oooof...nice image!

Henarar · Dec 12, 2017

Hilly said:
ruff as, hope he didnt have chain oil in the saw lol.

no plenty of lube in the fat

all joking to put one side it worked really well

Chum · Dec 12, 2017

I used to use an electric chainsaw with sunflower oil in instead of chain oil.

Worked a treat but a pain to wash it after. Just make sure you are facing away from tractor if its hanging on a loader! Don't want that over the bonnet and windscreen.

If its a calf you are doing the back bone will be fairly soft anyway, won't take a lot of sawing with decent butchers hacksaw or even meat cleaver and split it.

Sandpit Farm · Dec 12, 2017

Yale said:
Out of interest what is the process of testing to identify a PI.

Sure vet told me something like PI will test as negative or something like that.

PI animals immune system will not recognise BVD virus as something it needs to fight. You can therefore test for host response (antibody ELISA) which will be negative (but beware as that is the same result as a naïve animal)...

or you can test for the virus itself (either PCR or Antigen ELISA) which will be highly positive. Cheapest easiest way to do this is with a 'Tag and Test' tag or your vet can send a blood test.

Antigen +ve, antibody -ve = PI
Antigen -ve, antibody +ve = past infection, vaccine response or maternal protection.... but immune
Antigen +ve, antibody +ve = mid way through infection (transient infection) - rare as there is just a 3 week response.

M-J-G · Dec 12, 2017

A PI animal should be gone as soon as you find out about it.

You could carry infection on tractor wheels, clothes, etc. even the dog or a fox could carry infection from one shed to another, or the infective cattle could escape and spread it themselves.

Personally I'd get them gone ASAP

Danllan · Dec 12, 2017

Keeping them when you know they're infected(ive)

Chainsaw!

What next?

You'll be through a carcase, top to bottom, in less than a few minutes using a butcher's saw with a decent blade in it:

https://www.awsmith.co.uk/Sundries+&+Processing/Saws/22"+Kamlock+Handsaws/95330/stainless_steel_22_kamlock_handsaw_each

Smiths give a good service and only sell good kit, can't recommend them too highly.#

But I wouldn't have any bit of them around, including in a freezer.

bovine · Dec 13, 2017

I sometimes wonder why we still have BVD as a problem in this country and then I read threads like this.

Whilst there is no specific human health risk this is diseased meat. Shoot them. Get rid. Follow your vets advice.

Henarar · Dec 13, 2017

bovine said:
I sometimes wonder why we still have BVD as a problem in this country and then I read threads like this.

Whilst there is no specific human health risk this is diseased meat. Shoot them. Get rid. Follow your vets advice.

With you on that its a relatively easy one to get rid of

Recoil · Dec 13, 2017

bovine said:
I sometimes wonder why we still have BVD as a problem in this country and then I read threads like this.

Whilst there is no specific human health risk this is diseased meat. Shoot them. Get rid. Follow your vets advice.

Vets advice was seperate them and try and fatten them. That would mean them hanging round for another year or so (if they stayed alive that long). I'm getting rid of them quicker than that so thought I was doing the right thing.

Northeastfarmer · Dec 13, 2017

Recoil said:
Vets advice was seperate them and try and fatten them. That would mean them hanging round for another year or so (if they stayed alive that long). I'm getting rid of them quicker than that so thought I was doing the right thing.

Think you need a new vet

marshfarmer · Dec 13, 2017

On ad lib cereal they wouldn't be there a year

Northeastfarmer · Dec 13, 2017

marshfarmer said:
On ad lib cereal they wouldn't be there a year

Oh well they won’t spread any disease about in a year would they...

marshfarmer · Dec 13, 2017

Northeastfarmer said:
Oh well they won’t spread any disease about in a year would they...

Half a year half the disease

I bet some farmers wouldn't waste them, they'd be in the knacker cart myself now. Difficult if they look healthy I know

Hilly · Dec 13, 2017

Get shot of them for our sake if not your own, lets get rid of bvd once and for all.

milkloss · Dec 13, 2017

With an all vaccinated herd and isolated on farm could somebody explain the problem? If they are isolated and staying on farm surely it is managed risk? I would assume the rest of the herd has been exposed to the virus due to these animals already. I’m not denying bvd is a big issue but a lot of herdsmen are oblivious to it, the fact the op knows about surely puts him on the right side of the job, no?

Edit: read my post back and it seems a bit abrupt and ready for challenge. I am prepared to be corrected and hoping to learn

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