another thing I've learnt from this thread is what parts I work on: namely amalgamating my stock more, and planning ahead as to what we can do to achieve the things we want to achieve; I think I have reached the conclusion that putting it all down on paper is important, even as a reference partway through the year... that was my own reason behind gathering everyone's input on what HM means to them.
It rapidly turned into a philosophy / southern ramblings thread @martian
But I will readily admit I have learned a fair bit about what makes me "tick" along the way, and that is quite important in holistic farming, what works for me won't work for @Henarar or @Farmer Roy or @SilliamWhale because we are all in such different holistic contexts, different time constraints, different crops and objectives - there are no wrong ways, HM helps us evaluate and plan, helps us to learn.
I have long been interested in what you do, have gathered up the odd snippet and it sounds really positive
so many of them seeds it will only need a small % to grow to perperperate the problem big time...If all seeds we actually buy were like that we would only need to buy them onceI’d think the fermentation and heat of silage would greatly lower germination.
Or increase it knowing logic of weeds
.. there again that muck if it had been turned a few times and allowed to compost a bit up to a higher heat level..and not spread fresh or as slurry etc etc....looking about dairy farms, clamp silage and slurry seem to make docks growso many of them seeds it will only need a small % to grow to perperperate the problem big time...If all seeds we actually buy were like that we would only need to buy them once
............anyway .....Yer silage shouldnt be that hot..
Its the usually lower ph of clamp silage that will kill them more so than in... bale silage ...
.......which is where my biggest problem with them came from imported muck from another farm....
I will need to address a bit of that reply at a time,im not that brainy ...and its Sunday...
) as i like to have tons of clover and spot spraying is a pain the arse ..tight sheep grazing only at certain times though and non haymaking/conservation of those areas .
imagine how much more that can be with more cover, takes a lot of solar power to do that....
"so many of them seeds it will only need a small % to grow to perperperate the problem big time."
Dock stems and sheep feet are not a good mixI will need to address a bit of that reply at a time,im not that brainy ...and its Sunday...
the big picture ..you are right of course...... i only treat symptoms
Easy to clean docks and a lot of other weed out in the wheat and Barley bit in the rotation and even oats (slightly less safe at times)
Nothing to do with the plough use here... but other cattle farms and ( poorly managed pony paddocks locally/alternative land use
the few areas that are in pp here that we dont /cant include in the rotation act as the reservoirs
I dont own a topper btw.
I think docks are easier to manage out with cattle, personally, as a one wire electric is so much nicer than 3 or 4 so you can have a giggle about my dinky wee plough with spit-through rusty boards 
Dairy farm near me took some old overgrown PP as silage one year and put it on the pit with their second cut. One of the fields of about 3 acres was red with docks gone to seed.
