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- NSW, Newstralya
Does he have the relevant certification for stick picking ? we know how anal the aussie beauracrats are . ......
Certification ?
Doesnt even have a drivers licence to get to work
Am I being paid ok?
- Thread starter Comptonfarmer
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Certification ?
Doesnt even have a drivers licence to get to work
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
My 16 year old nephew ( still at school ) is being paid $15 / hour by a neighbour of his for stick picking ( literally, driving around arable paddocks in a ute & picking up any sticks, branches etc ) on weekends. Using the farmers ute, by the way
With your hourly rates, I'm surprised you can find anyone to work on farms
You have to put cost of living in there somewhere though. I'd argue a lot of things are cheaper in the UK so you're lower hourly rate will buy you just as much.
Heaps of Kiwis going over to you for higher wages but not really any better off because it costs them more to live there and i'd say NZ has a higher cost of living than the UK.
Demanding high wages is fine but you can price yourself out of the market.
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- NSW, Newstralya
meh
I spent 3 yrs working in the UK on farms
I had no commitments, no debt, no responsibilities & accommodation was provided, so I was free to spend all my money on beer, food & petrol. So, I did have a lot of fun & relatively free to spend money on anything However, I was shocked at how expensive things were . Many things seemed to be similar numbers to home except with a pound sign in front instead of dollars - except my wage.
In general, the standard of living, housing, education all seemed lower in the UK for 'working' people than here
what are a " lot " of things that are cheaper in the UK ? There is no way I could sell up, migrate & maintain the standard of living I do here. At UK wages, it seems I certainly couldn't afford to work on farms either . . .
$15 / hr is hardly a high wage, neither was it demanded. It was offered . . .
its not really about workers demanding higher wages, the reality is if employers want to attract or retain staff, then wages need to demonstrate this & be competitive with other jobs
I spent 3 yrs working in the UK on farms
I had no commitments, no debt, no responsibilities & accommodation was provided, so I was free to spend all my money on beer, food & petrol. So, I did have a lot of fun & relatively free to spend money on anything However, I was shocked at how expensive things were
. Many things seemed to be similar numbers to home except with a pound sign in front instead of dollars - except my wage.In general, the standard of living, housing, education all seemed lower in the UK for 'working' people than here
what are a " lot " of things that are cheaper in the UK ? There is no way I could sell up, migrate & maintain the standard of living I do here. At UK wages, it seems I certainly couldn't afford to work on farms either . . .
$15 / hr is hardly a high wage, neither was it demanded. It was offered . . .
its not really about workers demanding higher wages, the reality is if employers want to attract or retain staff, then wages need to demonstrate this & be competitive with other jobs
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kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
meh
I spent 3 yrs working in the UK on farms
I had no commitments, no debt, no responsibilities & accommodation was provided, so I was free to spend all my money on beer, food & petrol. So, I did have a lot of fun & relatively free to spend money on anything However, I was shocked at how expensive things were
In general, the standard of living, housing, education all seemed lower in the UK for 'working' people than here
what are a " lot " of things that are cheaper in the UK ? There is no way I could sell up, migrate & maintain the standard of living I do here. At UK wages, it seems I certainly couldn't afford to work on farms either . . .
$15 / hr is hardly a high wage, neither was it demanded. It was offered . . .
its not really about workers demanding higher wages, the reality is if employers want to attract or retain staff, then wages need to demonstrate this & be competitive with other jobs
I was quite surprised last year at how cheap a lot of things were in the supermarkets, I suppose the exchange rate has a lot to do with it.
Just had a quick look, at todays rates the OP's 8.50 would be below NZ's $16.50 minimum wage and I believe it will be $20 in the next couple of years but I don't think people will be much better off because everything else will go up too.
Once you get wages too high the jobs just disappear.
I do think the OP should have had a much bigger increase after a year though and its time to move on.
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
When I worked in Australia in 2000 I felt wages were relatively poor compared to the UK. I would have stayed a few years and saved up a lot of money if that was the case. I'd no commitments back then.
My youngest brother works in Melbourne and is on about 80k a year which we all think is crazy but says with cost of living its not a massive amount.
My youngest brother works in Melbourne and is on about 80k a year which we all think is crazy but says with cost of living its not a massive amount.
Sounds a good job until you pick up a snake by mistake!! Id give it a mis!My 16 year old nephew ( still at school ) is being paid $15 / hour by a neighbour of his for stick picking ( literally, driving around arable paddocks in a ute & picking up any sticks, branches etc ) on weekends. Using the farmers ute, by the way
With your hourly rates, I'm surprised you can find anyone to work on farms
Comptonfarmer
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Not really sure how to take that, I just wouldn’t want anyone I know seeing this and boss man finding out about it on here as I would rather say it to his face
WRXppp
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- North Yorks
Well correct me if i’m wrong but all you did was start this thread to see if you were being paid correctly, a few years ago we had a wages board which set wages for agri workers in England but it was scrapped but Scotland still has one so that may be worth a google, have you opted out of the working time directive if you are over 48 hours a week, that’s for his good as well as yours that that is in place.
At 21 your a young lad probably with not quite the number of commitments of someone older but that doesn’t mean you are not entitled to a fair wage and some spare time to enjoy yourself!
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
I do hope you are actually employed and that you get a payslip and your PAYE and National Insurance plus the statutory pension deducted from your wage? If not, you may be liable to pay your own taxes out of your £8.50 an hour.
I have not read through pages of posts, so this may have already been covered.
£8.50 an hour is what many shop workers earn, and it is not a sustainable wage for a 22 year old with some skills. Having said that, there are an awful lot of people earning less, that deserve more. The amount of your 'commitments' is not your employer's business. His business is to manage his own, which includes securing his labour requirement and meeting his statutory obligations in all ways.
Your business and responsibility, as an employee, is to work with your employer to make his business successful, to work safely and efficiently, but also to ensure that you get paid a rate that reflects your true worth.
There are many good employers out there but also some very poor ones. If your employer is truly a poor one to work for, with failings in management, health and safety, pay, conditions perhaps, move on and don't waste your life.
I have not read through pages of posts, so this may have already been covered.
£8.50 an hour is what many shop workers earn, and it is not a sustainable wage for a 22 year old with some skills. Having said that, there are an awful lot of people earning less, that deserve more. The amount of your 'commitments' is not your employer's business. His business is to manage his own, which includes securing his labour requirement and meeting his statutory obligations in all ways.
Your business and responsibility, as an employee, is to work with your employer to make his business successful, to work safely and efficiently, but also to ensure that you get paid a rate that reflects your true worth.
There are many good employers out there but also some very poor ones. If your employer is truly a poor one to work for, with failings in management, health and safety, pay, conditions perhaps, move on and don't waste your life.
ollie989898
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How old you are and hours per week make no difference its £10 an hour or you walk.
Comptonfarmer
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I’m employed get a paye slip etc... I’m going to ask for 10 pound an hour tomorrow if I don’t get it I’m going to walk and pick up one of the many jobs I’ve been offered for that rate, thanks for the responses
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- North Wales
Dont forget to set a review date 12 months from now or a % increase or in 3 years you'll be I'm the same place at £10/hr, with possibly more commitments which you can't afford due to low pay.
ollie989898
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Any 21 year old that turns up on time and works hard is worth £10 an hour I think.
Dont be shirty with your present employer. Explain someone else has offered you £10 an hour and you are very tempted to accept.
Dont be shirty with your present employer. Explain someone else has offered you £10 an hour and you are very tempted to accept.
TheTallGuy
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- Cambridgeshire
Yep, there's no sense causing agro as you never know if you might need a friend in future plus they also might go bad mouthing you to all and sundry.
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Yes, as with all your business transactions and negotiations in life, keep it civil and businesslike. There's no advantage and potentially many disadvantages from being adversarial or losing one's rag.
Never discuss your current or previous employer or his business, if they can be identified, or even if not, with future prospects, employers, fellow workers or any third party whatsoever. It's not only bad form but again could turn around and bite you. Your next employer will suspect you would do the same to him when you inevitably leave one day in the future, which will have breached trust in you, and stuff gets repeated and gets heard by people you don't wish to know.
Never discuss your current or previous employer or his business, if they can be identified, or even if not, with future prospects, employers, fellow workers or any third party whatsoever. It's not only bad form but again could turn around and bite you. Your next employer will suspect you would do the same to him when you inevitably leave one day in the future, which will have breached trust in you, and stuff gets repeated and gets heard by people you don't wish to know.
d williams
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agree, but if no one can speak up then we lose democracy.and then you will be owned by the big corporates .
and if john deer get their way no one on here will ever own a tractor again,they want to sell license to use while you pay all the costs
if we want the lords to retake control