Fly repellent for sheep

Tim W · Jun 17, 2018

spin cycle said:
do you not use any fly teatment?

I've had to treat a couple this year for strike
It really depends on where they are----next to the lakes in the valley would be higher risk i guess but on the downs it's breezier and lower risk
If i go on holiday for a couple of weeks during the season then i tend to put a dab of something on the lambs back end

Shedding sheep obviously have a vastly lower risk of getting struck but it can happen

Man_in_black · Jun 17, 2018

Norfolk Hill Farmer said:
Does Dysect spread throughout the whole fleece like clik does.

Yes

Sheep92 · Jun 17, 2018

Green farmer said:
Are you still needing it for your easycare sheep ?

I only started crossing them in a big way this year have very few easycares at the minute, id still do them anyway, all ewes and replacements will always be dipped, always afraid of scab

delilah · Jun 17, 2018

Does anyone have a view on the most benign (but still effective !) product in terms of human health ? We are hand processing fleeces and would like to recommend a product to people looking to pass their fleeces to us. Have always used clikzin ourselves, is this as good as any in terms that compromise between effectiveness and toxicity ?

Tim W · Jun 17, 2018

delilah said:
Does anyone have a view on the most benign (but still effective !) product in terms of human health ? We are hand processing fleeces and would like to recommend a product to people looking to pass their fleeces to us. Have always used clikzin ourselves, is this as good as any in terms that compromise between effectiveness and toxicity ?

http://www.medifarm.co.uk/stopmyasis.html
Take a look at this ----if you are prepared to treat every 2 weeks it may work for you

delilah · Jun 17, 2018

Tim W said:
http://www.medifarm.co.uk/stopmyasis.html
Take a look at this ----if you are prepared to treat every 2 weeks it may work for you

Thank you, hadn't heard of that will order a bottle tomorrow see how it goes, it says up to 6 weeks cover but am guessing you've tried it and found nearer 2 to be more like it. No matter we have small numbers ourselves as will most people sending us fleeces so could be a useful product to recommend, am certainly looking for peace of mind given the amount of manual handling taking place with the fleeces.

neilo · Jun 17, 2018

delilah said:
Does anyone have a view on the most benign (but still effective !) product in terms of human health ? We are hand processing fleeces and would like to recommend a product to people looking to pass their fleeces to us. Have always used clikzin ourselves, is this as good as any in terms that compromise between effectiveness and toxicity ?

I’ve always considered the ai in Clik/Clikzin to be more benign than most of the other options as:
1. It doesn't actually kill anything, just restricts growth of the maggots before they can bite.
2. It’s based on a water carrier, rather than any pungent solvents/oils.

No scientific evidence to back any of that up though.

Norfolk Hill Farmer · Jun 18, 2018

If Clik has a 40 day withdrawal, and people treat ewes that have just been sheared for instance, and these ewes may have lambs with them that are ready to go fat before that 40 days is up , could accidental splashing of the lambs
or rubbing against the ewes be an issue it terms of residues in the meat.

Tim W · Jun 18, 2018

delilah said:
Thank you, hadn't heard of that will order a bottle tomorrow see how it goes, it says up to 6 weeks cover but am guessing you've tried it and found nearer 2 to be more like it. No matter we have small numbers ourselves as will most people sending us fleeces so could be a useful product to recommend, am certainly looking for peace of mind given the amount of manual handling taking place with the fleeces.

@delilah --- read the small print about application technique etc ---i don't think it's as easy as it sounds
I saw some trials (not very good ones) that had varying results

Gator · Jun 18, 2018

Bob c said:
any one else use it ,.........does it work

Using it today if it stays dry

. Just on the lambs till the ewes get abit of wool growth then shower the lot

neilo · Jun 18, 2018

Norfolk Hill Farmer said:
If Clik has a 40 day withdrawal, and people treat ewes that have just been sheared for instance, and these ewes may have lambs with them that are ready to go fat before that 40 days is up , could accidental splashing of the lambs
or rubbing against the ewes be an issue it terms of residues in the meat.

In terms of potential residue on those lambs, they would have far less ai on them than if you were to spray the lambs directly with Clikzin (8 day withdrawal). I wouldn’t worry about it.

Poorbuthappy · Jun 18, 2018

neilo said:
I’ve always considered the ai in Clik/Clikzin to be more benign than most of the other options as:
1. It doesn't actually kill anything, just restricts growth of the maggots before they can bite.
2. It’s based on a water carrier, rather than any pungent solvents/oils.

No scientific evidence to back any of that up though.

Agree with this, and it's also what the Bristol uni fly expert (who's name escapes me) intimated when I heard him speak on fly control.

Norfolk Hill Farmer · Jun 18, 2018

neilo said:
In terms of potential residue on those lambs, they would have far less ai on them than if you were to spray the lambs directly with Clikzin (8 day withdrawal). I wouldn’t worry about it.

Is Clikzin the same active ingredient as Clik.

neilo · Jun 18, 2018

Norfolk Hill Farmer said:
Is Clikzin the same active ingredient as Clik.

Yes, just more diluted (in a water base). Clik Extra is the same again, just at a slightly higher concentration.

Tim W · Jun 18, 2018

Poorbuthappy said:
Agree with this, and it's also what the Bristol uni fly expert (who's name escapes me) intimated when I heard him speak on fly control.

@Poorbuthappy Dr Richard Wall ?

Poorbuthappy · Jun 18, 2018

Tim W said:
@Poorbuthappy Dr Richard Wall ?

I think that's the chap. Spent a lifetime studying flies and maggots!

Farmer_Joe · Jun 18, 2018

neilo said:
I’ve always found Clik lasts a lot longer than a Dysect ever did. I know Dysect is cheaper, but it also eats my nasal passages away, along with my leggings, the pour-on gun’s seals and likely any shearers that got near those sheep three months later. Hateful stuff to work with IME.

I agree that Clik is priced too high and it gets jacked up by a daft amount each year, but currently, I don’t believe there’s a better, or more cost effective, alternative available.

Ticks & lice not a problem here, thankfully.

i use click when lambs are young ish (lamb april treated early this month) have plenty of time before auction so out of withdrawal, been very successful for me expensive but worth every penny, had to do sheep with crovect this year due to weather but some years there ok as long as they are sheared early ish.

crovect is total shite on lice uesd it last year on a few of last lambs not worth a toss ended up using spot on.

find crovect very good on strike and pre strike but im fairly high up

Farmer_Joe · Jun 18, 2018

neilo said:
I’ve always considered the ai in Clik/Clikzin to be more benign than most of the other options as:
1. It doesn't actually kill anything, just restricts growth of the maggots before they can bite.
2. It’s based on a water carrier, rather than any pungent solvents/oils.

No scientific evidence to back any of that up though.

jesus you wanna read the label, click is the worst of them all the withdrawal is a clue but it say something like not to handle or sheep or shear within 4 weeks of application or somthing like that, i read it the other week made me realise theses something in it you dont wanna be near

'Clik acts on fly larvae. Its growth-regulating mechanism results in the interference of moulting and pupation, thereby stopping larval development'

sound like something you dont want on your skin

found it

'Do not shear sheep in the 3 months after treatment.
Handle sheep as little as possible after treatment as residues remain on the fleece for some weeks.
If you need to handle sheep after treatment, wear coveralls and Wellington boots. If sheep are wet also wear waterproof trousers and coat'

Tim W · Jun 18, 2018

Poorbuthappy said:
I think that's the chap. Spent a lifetime studying flies and maggots!

Yep ---fascinating chap

Green farmer · Jun 18, 2018

The one thing about clik, is it’s very thick / gloppy like. Even when sprayed with the fan applicator it goes where it’s meant to. I’d Prefer to use that then ectofly, which has a very fine mist when using. The drift off that can travel a lot easier imo and accidentally get on you. I’ve used both and will stick with the clik.

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