Is Ireland best off following the UK out of the EU?

JimAndy

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Mixed Farmer
it's hard to find meaningful statistics for Irish imports and exports. None will show trade across the border with NI for some reason, and the exports to the USA situation is hugely distorted by the relocation of several huge firms like Apple taking advantage of the tax situation...... and we know the EU view on that!
Undoubtedly physical trade is mostly with the whole UK,.

agreed it hard to find hard facts and figures on irish exports, but i still don't see how "brexit inflict terrible pain on RoI"

lets for the sake of argument that RoI does nothing else but export food, with the UK being the main buyer of this food
and the UK leaves with a no deal.

so what happens well all that welch sheep that goes to france, now becomes irish sheep going to france, all that scotbeef going to germany now become irish beef going to germany ect ect ect

Yes you could slap a huge tariffe on irish food so people won't buy it, but who does this effect. under WTO rules (which i assume you be working under unless your going rouge) you just can't slap a tariffe on Irish beef (well it would be EU beef as RoI is still a member) you have to put it on ALL beef EU, AUS, Brazil,USA, and who would it hurt well the irish beef industry for a 2-3 years till it finds new markets/moves into new products.

BUT according to the UK stats the UK is only grows 65% of the food it uses and even with all exports being stopped that figure only get up to around 80% so the UK needs to import food. Food with tariffs on it making it expensive. so lets see what happens when the UK house wife (or husband no need to be sexist) has to pay £3 for a pint of milk or £5 for a loaf of bread.

even the Romans 2000 years ago knew that the shortest way to get people to revolt is to make food too expensive to buy
 

manhill

Member
The UK won't inflict pain on ROI by going hard Brexit, well not intentionally anyway. Maybe it will be the EU that does that if it takes the "punish the UK" stance. It's not the UK that wants to initiate tariffs is it?
 

Fragonard

Member
Deleted the rest of the reply because it's your usual tantrum.

Have you actually paid attention to what has been said the last 2 years? are you saying there is literally none, zero, nada effort amongst the civil service and this government to avoid leaving the EU?
Simple. Have another vote! The next referendum would be COMPLETELY different because now people would actually know what the consequences of their vote would be.
If "Leave" wins again, Happy Days!
Brexiteers are happy.
Remoaners are happy.
 

turbo

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Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
Simple. Have another vote! The next referendum would be COMPLETELY different because now people would actually know what the consequences of their vote would be.
If "Leave" wins again, Happy Days!
Brexiteers are happy.
Remoaners are happy.
what do we now know?
 

bovrill

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Mixed Farmer
Location
East Essexshire
i still don't see how "brexit inflict terrible pain on RoI"
I don't think anyone's said that here, have they?
I certainly haven't, I totally agree with:
The UK won't inflict pain on ROI by going hard Brexit, well not intentionally anyway. Maybe it will be the EU that does that if it takes the "punish the UK" stance. It's not the UK that wants to initiate tariffs is it?
It would be a lot easier for Ireland to be independent and able to trade with an independent UK with no restrictions, but that's looking unlikely in the short term, with Brussels indicating that they're quite happy to throw the Irish baby out with the Brexit bathwater.
 

turbo

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Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
If you don't know more now, than you did 2 years ago, you must have been somewhere very remote sine the vote. There was hardly a day went by that Brexit wasn't in the news.
That’s the reason if there is another vote I will be changing the way I voted,this time it out!.
 

JimAndy

Member
Mixed Farmer
It would be a lot easier for Ireland to be independent and able to trade with an independent UK with no restrictions, but that's looking unlikely in the short term, with Brussels indicating that they're quite happy to throw the Irish baby out with the Brexit bathwater.

it would be a lot easier for the UK that for sure
 

turbo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
What's changed your mind?
Don’t like the bully boy attude and I think with the right leadership and better politician we have some good things ahead of us. I am also sick of the project fear trying to undo the result and I would rather believe people like sir James dyson than Tony Blair and junker
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Don’t like the bully boy attude and I think with the right leadership and better politician we have some good things ahead of us. I am also sick of the project fear trying to undo the result and I would rather believe people like sir James dyson than Tony Blair and junker

Quite ironic as the subliminal message of this thread is about the bully boy attitude of the UK towards ROI
 

More to life

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Location
Somerset
The border is an interesting conundrum the Irish won't build a hard border nor will we this truth must drive the EU mad. It's an issue they can't force thus giving the uk limited free access to the EU.
 

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