Getting less pleasant .....

Ukjay · Sep 22, 2018

Kiwi Pete said:
If you count fried eggs, onions, and cold leg-of-lamb from last night as 'good', then yes, yes I do.
It's all locally sourced, too, my coffee had to travel the furthest

Hell yeh - when I get my arse in gear to get out to NZ, one may just seek you out to give me a tour of your mansion

Andy54 · Sep 22, 2018

There is a lot of uncertainty and frustration in the industry at the moment and for some people the only place they can vent is on here. We aren't that isolated where we are but can quite easily go days without seeing or speaking to any one else apart from the family and coming on here and just having a read can make the days go easier. To those who are isolated this place, even with its occasional back biting, can be a breath of fresh air on a crappy day.

Phil P · Sep 22, 2018

Ukjay said:
One person's banter is another persons feelings being ruffled more than not in today's world though Phil.

You just can't win...

True, we have lost at least one if not two generations now to “political correctness” and “hurt feelings” but let’s not get into politics and needing a “safe space” just now

Kevtherev · Sep 22, 2018

You starting @7610 super q

Kiwi Pete · Sep 22, 2018

exmoor dave said:
That is sooooo true

You have to let it out, somehow!!

I have a big motocross bike, I think we are at that point where we are equally fearful of one another, but release is as good as a tonic.
Some farmers will only ever really relate to others in the industry, and TBH it can become a big whinge-fest.

Being proud or positive is almost taboo.

Henarar · Sep 22, 2018

exmoor dave said:
That is sooooo true

No it isn't you you you really rather lovely person you

exmoor dave · Sep 22, 2018

Kiwi Pete said:
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You have to let it out, somehow!!

I have a big motocross bike, I think we are at that point where we are equally fearful of one another, but release is as good as a tonic.
Some farmers will only ever really relate to others in the industry, and TBH it can become a big whinge-fest.

Being proud or positive is almost taboo.

I have a few off farm roles that generally require me to be quite diplomatic, even when my personal opinion is very different.
I also work with family members.... this also requires some serious diplomacy (I doubt I need to elaborate!)

Fortunately even something that really winds me up tends to wash over in 24hrs..... usually destroying a cake in the mean time helps.... or just a bar of cooking chocolate like tonight

The cake is probably just covering the cracks where the politeness is chipping me away inside

In all seriousness my partner is a GP and she often has had a day that puts my "British politeness slowing killing me" firmly in persepetive.

exmoor dave · Sep 22, 2018

Henarar said:
No it isn't you you you really rather lovely person you

If it wasn't for the fact I know you..... I'd be worried that was a chat up line.... still gonna keep my back to the wall at Somerset AGM just in case

Kiwi Pete · Sep 22, 2018

exmoor dave said:
If it wasn't for the fact I know you..... I'd be worried that was a chat up line.... still gonna keep my back to the wall at Somerset AGM just in case

I have a ram a bit like that . He has love in his eyes

Dropped my fence tester in the paddock and kicked it through the grass for a hundred yards before I was game to bend over to pick it up

exmoor dave · Sep 22, 2018

Kiwi Pete said:
I have a ram a bit like that . He has love in his eyes

Dropped my fence tester in the paddock and kicked it through the grass for a hundred yards before I was game to bend over to pick it up

Used to have a wilty ram that would gather up the other rams and walk them down to to the woods for a while

CharcoalWally · Sep 22, 2018

Poorbuthappy said:
Certainly be pointless if we all thought the same.
A bit more respect in the discussions/ arguments wouldn't go amiss at times though.

Never gonna happen though. Some people know exactly what they're doing, and play on it, and other people are completely un-self aware of their effect on others.

What makes me smile is when somebody disagreeing with you is instantly a troll. Lowest common denomination debate . A troll is a troll. Someone holding a contrary opinion is just that.

CharcoalWally · Sep 22, 2018

Phil P said:
I think there’s a fine line between a heated debate (which makes interesting reading) and been down right nasty/personal (not such pleasant reading), some don’t know where that line is or when they’ve crossed it though! I love a bit of playful banter and humour as much as the next person though, it’s knowing when to stop

And your playful banter and humour may be extremely offensive to others.

This forum is just a (cracked ) mirror of Society. We are never all going to get on. It's almost not worth worrying about. If someone bothers you, then don't spend energy on them. You wouldn't in your real life.

Phil P · Sep 23, 2018

CharcoalWally said:
And your playful banter and humour may be extremely offensive to others.

This forum is just a (cracked ) mirror of Society. We are never all going to get on. It's almost not worth worrying about. If someone bothers you, then don't spend energy on them. You wouldn't in your real life.

As I said there is a difference between playful banter/humer and been down right nasty and abusive! I’ve found most on here to be pretty light harted and enjoy a bit of banter, I very often get my leg pulled by a couple of members and find myself chuckling at there comments

. Life’s to short not to have laugh!
I can only think of one occasion someone wrote a derogatory comment on one of my threads

My reply wasn’t nasty or hurtful but I put the straight without been abusive and that was that

. I’ve seen others just looking for an argument though

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Ukjay · Sep 23, 2018

Phil P said:
True, we have lost at least one if not two generations now to “political correctness” and “hurt feelings” but let’s not get into politics and needing a “safe space” just now

Yes, best leave thse areas well away from discussion - they cause far too many debates than they deserve air time over!!

DRC · Sep 23, 2018

So many good posters have left since the forum started , or don’t post much. There used to be a happy band and I hardly noticed a bad word. Why did they leave?

I’m thinking of people like @stuart , @Flossie , @eulb @Steakeater @YorkshireAndrew @7610 super q @multi @static ,and of course Carole had a way of keeping everyone in order.
Some posters now just grind you down and there’s no reasoning or discussion . Some posts are just too long and keep banging on about the same stuff, whether that’s Brexit ( which is a lot to blame), or someone constantly telling us we are whinging poms.

Treg · Sep 23, 2018

Kiwi Pete said:
My favourite threads are the ones where friends call each other trolls as they troll each other

Having a sense of humour is quite a handy thing, it beats scuttling under a rock every time something loud happens nearby.

(If that's the case, stay well clear of the internet is my best advice, because people say worse than stroker on FB)

Now, you great folk may have realised that I'm not British
but it is well noted that British folk try hard NOT TO OFFEND EACH OTHER even if they basically die a little inside by not doing so - so is this place not simply an outlet for pent-up frustration? Conflict is part of being alive.

However it does get a bit silly, all the same: there's a brexit and politics section full of cobwebs and yet straw can be about politics as much as choosing rams for next year or buying a new tractor.
Few industries are as complex and interwoven as UK agriculture.

But I would let any one of you into my own home, all the same.
Just don't all come on the same day, FFS

I would have thought a "mob visit " would fit in with the way you farm, we could clear out the fridge & pantry & move on to the next Tff farm

7610 super q · Sep 23, 2018

Well. I'm still here @silverfox . It's just the desire to post gets less as time goes on. The light touch moderating isn't really working any more I don't think, unless you mention a certain subject, when it turns to heavy handed moderating.

I'm bored of the endless farmer bashing threads, if you don't like it find another job , whinging poms, and Brexit comments.
In short, it's not the same forum I joined 4 years ago.

harperfarmer · Sep 23, 2018

The perception amongst elements of society in general these days is that the internet gives them a platform to spout off vitriol and bile with the degree of anonymity that prevents them from doing the same in person (that and a lack of balls!?). This forum, whilst a more targeted societal group, will still have the same percentage of those type of people who will crop up and generally be unpleasant. I think it says an awful lot more about those people than it does about those who want to engage in balanced debate. I wouldn't say the forum is changing, Id say its just the way society is slowly changing and the forum to a degree reflects that!? By the same measure, if you don't like it just stop contributing it. Pretty simple really.

Kiwi Pete · Sep 23, 2018

Treg said:
I would have thought a "mob visit " would fit in with the way you farm, we could clear out the fridge & pantry & move on to the next Tff farm

How many "Donkey Days" are we talking, here?

Werzle · Sep 23, 2018

Havent been a member for long but its getting more of a farming forum where you can get good info rather than a pat on the back club . Debate is great and although a thick skin is needed at times its good that bullsh#t comments get challenged.

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