livestock 1
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I didn’t say I was concerned about the removal of subs!
Not going to work for nothing
- Thread starter mark perego
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- Fife
Why all the fuss over it then?
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- Fife
It doesn’t. No meat imported into the eu contains banned hormones.
livestock 1
Member
I think I was talking about stagnated beef and lamb prices if you remember correctly no mention of anything to do with sub!
livestock 1
Member
Ok well I stand corrected then
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- North Wales
They don't use hormones in lamb so that can be sold alongside ours without any problems.
You do raise an interesting question though. How much of NZ beef is imported into the UK? Most imported beef comes from Ireland and south america.
JD-Kid
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- Akaroa.. New Zealand
ummmmm and were we not talking about sheep not beef and I don't know were that number comes from as I don't even think you can buy the hormone. injection any more
JD-Kid
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- Akaroa.. New Zealand
big thing is I know a lot of farmers on here I class as friends I know. on forum only I know how they farm and. there system
I would eat there lamb or beef any day and. they know. how I farm and would buy mine too knowing how I care for stock etc etc we all have rules in our countrys put in place by govts etc
some I would say unfair
know a few guys on here. and most of there set ups could be next door. to here
I would eat there lamb or beef any day and. they know. how I farm and would buy mine too knowing how I care for stock etc etc we all have rules in our countrys put in place by govts etc
some I would say unfair
know a few guys on here. and most of there set ups could be next door. to here
livestock 1
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It may only grow for 5 months but I can graze it for 12 months, just a matter of having it stocked right.
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- East Sussex
Has this thread suddenly got really boring? Somehow we’ve got into farming a zillion miles away which quite frankly has very little to do with farming in the uk. In my opinion our survival as farmers will not depend on the free market or so called ‘efficiencies’, the world at large cannot pay our massive costs to produce food, certainly livestock production. The price we sell at has a ceiling and I reckon we’re on it now.
There needs to be another way. You spend hours arguing over all sorts of bolloks but completely miss the subject we should be focusing on.
What did that guy on Countryfile say after talking to Gove? Something like ‘... who knows where the cards will fall’. The way farmers are going, if the discussions on here are anything to go by, it’ll be just that: throw it all in the air and see where it lands.
There needs to be another way. You spend hours arguing over all sorts of bolloks but completely miss the subject we should be focusing on.
What did that guy on Countryfile say after talking to Gove? Something like ‘... who knows where the cards will fall’. The way farmers are going, if the discussions on here are anything to go by, it’ll be just that: throw it all in the air and see where it lands.
Pieces_of_Eight
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Various Br**it and Subs threads all arrive at the same conclusions:
- Commodity producers are price-takers
- To become a price-maker, produce a niche product (probably at a reduced volume).
- Consumers generally buy on price alone
- Economising your COP has a limit
- Beyond reducing COP, resilience will be key
- Producers unable to reduce COP, or those with impaired resilience may well be pushed out of production
texas pete
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- East Mids
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- Northumberland
Well thanks for the contributions of the last three posters.They have really taught me something............ not.
beardface
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- East Yorkshire
I wasn’t having a dig by the way I’m sure you know how to stock it and grass growth is your crux to bear. It’s just I wouldn’t make it an open issue as it may fuel the wrong end of a debate. Have seen other threads where people mention things which could be used against us in the long term. One things for certain fro reading all these threads at the moment, post brexit we need to all stop moaning and bickering and speak with one voice. Instead of something being an issue or problem it needs to be presented as a challenge. The British public always warm more to those who try to climb out of the glass than cry in the bottom of it.
texas pete
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- Location
- East Mids
Yes you are quite right, better to sit on our hands, do nothing and whinge ad nauseam about that beastly referendum....
exmoor dave
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- Location
- exmoor, uk
Out of interest, i think you said you are farming at 1000- 2500ft, are you finishing animals on your place?
& out of interest do you know what the AHDB levy is on lambs?
Just curious
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- Northumberland
I never said do nothing.But all that is posted now is "get more efficient,resilient,and wait for old codgers to die/go bust/or just give up,so we can buy/rent their land on the cheap.......and reap the fantastic opportunities that will result."
livestock 1
Member
Levy is 60p as far as I’m aware. Sold all lambs off here fat last year apart from 400 around October last year when we were jammed up with sheep. I think it’s around £4 per beast but not sure. Am I going to get moaned at for feeding lambs /cattle now???
livestock 1
Member
I think it’s reached stalemate. I think I am partially to blame. I feel strongly about my business and have voiced my opinions but maybe in reflection I probably should have kept quiet as I have met resistance
mark perego
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- Location
- in a river
Yes,i had no intention of it turning into a kiwi farming bashing!
Can you lot see subs ending and the government relinquishing control over us?
And if they do go how much do yo u need for your fat lambs?£90 plus as average for 40 kg fat lambs.
Talking to a friend today he reckons we’ll all need a job to compliment the farm.stuff that.if the animals dont pay enough then they’re gone
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