Farmer Roy's Random Thoughts - I never said it was easy.

cows sh#t me to tears · Jan 11, 2019

Have a read of this @Farmer Roy @CornishTone . Try and tell me we upstream irrigators or Cubbie are to blame https://www.southernriverinanews.co...1/394099/basin-plan-turning-us-into-a-mockery

This is what we are up against. Things may be slightly different now, but in 2001 before we built our new dairy I went to the lower lakes, lower Murray looking at dairies that had the same plant that we were looking at. One of the farms I visited was on the Murray swamps at tailem bend. The river was 13 feet above the flats. They irrigated through 18in siphons that would do 50megs a day. NO meters like we had had on our detheridge wheels for 60 years. Said they were allowed 13 irrigations a season, but they just went and started a symphon whenever they felt like.....fair???. You tell me!

Farmer Roy · Jan 11, 2019

Steel said:
View attachment 755352 My small 17 ha corn crop is using about 12 ML a week. The last 2 irrigations were 6 days apart as we have had a couple of hot weeks. Starting again tomorrow 7 days between irrigations this time.
Here is the readout of my moisture sensor and you can see some hot days really sucked out the moisture quickly.

wow - that's a lot of water! You still paying over $400 / ML for it ?
how much water do you expect the crop to use in total ?

Farmer Roy · Jan 11, 2019

cows sh#t me to tears said:
Have a read of this @Farmer Roy @CornishTone . Try and tell me we upstream irrigators or Cubbie are to blame https://www.southernriverinanews.co...1/394099/basin-plan-turning-us-into-a-mockery

This is what we are up against. Things may be slightly different now, but in 2001 before we built our new dairy I went to the lower lakes, lower Murray looking at dairies that had the same plant that we were looking at. One of the farms I visited was on the Murray swamps at tailed bend. The river was 13 feet above the flats. They irrigated through 18in siphons that would do 50megs a day. NO meters like we had had on our detheridge wheels for 60 years. Said they were allowed 13 urrigations a season, but they just went and started a symphony whenever they felt like.....fair???. You tell me!

no, its not fair at all. With the fish kill / state of the Darling, obviously the extreme climate & lack of inflow is a major contributor, but I think there are many human factors involved over MANY years, including mismanagement, poor decisions, excessive extraction or over allocation, lack of political will, States self interests etc etc . . . The State & Federal Govts as well as the MDBA must all take a share of the blame as well. As much as I personally disagree with the Cubbie development, I think it is wrong to focus entirely on them & for them to carry the blame - especially if they have no inflow or storage themselves . . .
Like everything else in life, I don't think it can be simplified to any one cause, but rather is the cumulative effect of many factors. Nor do I believe that any of the contributing factors can be dealt with in isolation.
But it is not only the Darling River that is in trouble . . .

Farmer Roy · Jan 11, 2019

Rolling up the last of the shitty old fences ( that had long ago outlived there usefulness, service life & seemed intent on randomly throwing wire into any passing machine ) on the neighbours block I lease.
Thought I'd better do something positive & make it look like I still care, considering all the "weeds" & "dirty" fallows I have . . .
Anyway, apparently it's acceptable to dispose of old oil filters under a fence

I found all these within about 500 m

Farmer Roy · Jan 11, 2019

It's a hot day
Plenty of hydration is in order

In honour of the Darling, which has been receiving so much attention ( I love that western, Darling River country, was always a dream to buy a big pastoral block out somewhere between Bourke & Pooncarie one day. That dream may have died now . . .) I thought I'd use this stubbie holder today

cows sh#t me to tears · Jan 11, 2019

Farmer Roy said:
wow - that's a lot of water! You still paying over $400 / ML for it ?
how much water do you expect the crop to use in total ?

Water is trading at $431/ meg today

Farmer Roy · Jan 11, 2019

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New Evidence Suggests Australian Cotton Farmers Were Also Behind 9/11

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Eighteen-and-a-half years after the world changed for the worse forever, new evidence has emerged that suggests Australian cotton farmers were behind the September 11 attacks in New York City.

In a joint investigation conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Central Intelligence Agency, shocking new information has come to life that points the finger at our nation’s most-loathed primary producers.

However, it is unlikely that this new information will reopen the official 9/11 Commission which officially ended in 2004 – but it does add to the mounting pressure that social media users have put on local cotton farmers to stop existing all together.

Speaking this morning to The Advocate via wireless telephone, the President of the Australian Cotton Irrigators Country Club, Alistair Charles-Huntly III, said that while the news coming out of the US is troubling, he won’t be jumping to any conclusions.

“It is quite concerning that a number northern and western New South Wales cotton producers were probably behind the worst terrorist attack in living memory,” he said.

“But in saying that, this is the worst drought in 50 years. That’s something that people need to understand. Especially the internet people. Did you know in the viral video, those fish are fake and those ‘farmers’ are senior campaign managers for GetUp? Yeah, makes you think,”

“Until these cotton farmers are named and charged in a court of law, I don’t see any reason to act on this information. But I tell you what, if that day does come, they’ll be a lot harder to find than old Osama. You ever been out in that south west country? You can disappear out there real well.”

The Advocate also reached out to the FBI and CIA for comment but have yet to receive a reply.

More to come

Farmer Roy · Jan 11, 2019

Anyone but Nats

cows sh#t me to tears · Jan 11, 2019

Got pretty pìssed off with a story on the ABC PM program tonight. Had the head of SA irrigators on there blaming upstream users (mainly your mob Roy)for the darling fish kill, claiming holier than thou status because they capped there usage back in 1968. How the f**k can you cap what you dont meter

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Normally I just yell at the radio in the tractor

. But this time I looked up how to contact them, and sent her an email with a link to the story in our local paper that I mentioned earlier......Bet I never get a reply

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f**k THIS s**t

its can time

Farmer Roy · Jan 11, 2019

most irrigation here is from bores, not rivers, but it is VERY highly regulated, metered & monitored . . .
most of the original licences here were vastly over allocated, however in this zone in the late 90's / early 2000's ? there was lots of negotiations etc, culminating in the voluntary reduction of a large % of individuals licences, in the interests of long term sustainability. Although there was some pain, the irrigators all realised it did no one any favours to pump the aquifers dry . . .
Back in the days of Wal Murray ( deputy Premier, leader of the Nationals, from Moree ) they were handing out water licences like confetti, I don't know about down south, but the whole north west of the state was over allocated way over buggery . . . Hence the pain of the 90's
It IS very regulated here & they even monitor the aquifers so can tell if unmetered pumping is happening.
Same with rivers - they have a fair idea how much is flowing in one end, how much is lost, how uch is allowed to be pumped & how much should be at the other end . . .
As far as I know, there IS no unregulated, unmetered irrigation allowed in NSW - at least not in the inland anyway
As you say, how can you cap, control or put limits on UNMETERED flows ????

CornishTone · Jan 11, 2019

cows sh#t me to tears said:
Have a read of this @Farmer Roy @CornishTone . Try and tell me we upstream irrigators or Cubbie are to blame https://www.southernriverinanews.co...1/394099/basin-plan-turning-us-into-a-mockery

This is what we are up against. Things may be slightly different now, but in 2001 before we built our new dairy I went to the lower lakes, lower Murray looking at dairies that had the same plant that we were looking at. One of the farms I visited was on the Murray swamps at tailem bend. The river was 13 feet above the flats. They irrigated through 18in siphons that would do 50megs a day. NO meters like we had had on our detheridge wheels for 60 years. Said they were allowed 13 irrigations a season, but they just went and started a symphon whenever they felt like.....fair???. You tell me!

Seriously, this really isn’t my fault!

cows sh#t me to tears · Jan 11, 2019

Same thing happened to deep bores here. In particular history of use played a big part. If you hadnt used it you lost a huge proportion of your allocation. As for surface water. It used to be that there was NO water trading. If you used your allocation , stiff. If you didnt use it it went back into the "pool" and was distributed to everybody the following year. Water trading was brought in with little thought as usual. Rather than use it or lose it by a certain date. They just allowed unvetted trade,. So all the large station properties around Deni that had massive allocations but had never used them, were now free to trade there water. We've been f**ked ever since.

cows sh#t me to tears · Jan 11, 2019

CornishTone said:
Seriously, this really isn’t my fault!

You chose to live in SA as a free settler

brush ,tar

Seriously though, I know how biased the media can be and as an outsider,I just want you to have an understanding from an evil devil irrigators point of view

Kiwi Pete · Jan 11, 2019

Most of the irritation here is from bores too.
The ignore function is really good for that.

Farmer Roy · Jan 11, 2019

cows sh#t me to tears said:
Same thing happened to deep bores here. In particular history of use played a big part. If you hadnt used it you lost a huge proportion of your allocation. As for surface water. It used to be that there was NO water trading. If you used your allocation , stiff. If you didnt use it it went back into the "pool" and was distributed to everybody the following year. Water trading was brought in with little thought as usual. Rather than use it or lose it by a certain date. They just allowed unvetted trade,. So all the large station properties around Deni that had massive allocations but had never used them, were now free to trade there water. We've been fudgeed ever since.

Yeah, it was history of use here as well
ALL licences should have been like that

holwellcourtfarm · Jan 11, 2019

Kiwi Pete said:
Most of the irritation here is from bores too.
The ignore function is really good for that.

Until the bores run dry

That was my big worry when I realised the scale of what's happening across NZ, especially Canterbury, in terms of irrigation.

Holistic planned grazing proves that dry county can be productive and profitable if it's done with holistic insight but then you already know that.

holwellcourtfarm · Jan 11, 2019

Farmer Roy said:
As you say, how can you cap, control or put limits on UNMETERED flows ????

Typical baseless political sound bite

Any interviewer with good research would rip it to shreds.

holwellcourtfarm · Jan 11, 2019

Farmer Roy said:
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/unc...JD_qiFKN-gHHDXu64BI-mVhUmhbxM-TLzUQnwJZ9UYKb0

New Evidence Suggests Australian Cotton Farmers Were Also Behind 9/11

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Twitter

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Email

ERROL PARKER | Editor-at-large | Contact

Eighteen-and-a-half years after the world changed for the worse forever, new evidence has emerged that suggests Australian cotton farmers were behind the September 11 attacks in New York City.

In a joint investigation conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Central Intelligence Agency, shocking new information has come to life that points the finger at our nation’s most-loathed primary producers.

However, it is unlikely that this new information will reopen the official 9/11 Commission which officially ended in 2004 – but it does add to the mounting pressure that social media users have put on local cotton farmers to stop existing all together.

Speaking this morning to The Advocate via wireless telephone, the President of the Australian Cotton Irrigators Country Club, Alistair Charles-Huntly III, said that while the news coming out of the US is troubling, he won’t be jumping to any conclusions.

“It is quite concerning that a number northern and western New South Wales cotton producers were probably behind the worst terrorist attack in living memory,” he said.

“But in saying that, this is the worst drought in 50 years. That’s something that people need to understand. Especially the internet people. Did you know in the viral video, those fish are fake and those ‘farmers’ are senior campaign managers for GetUp? Yeah, makes you think,”

“Until these cotton farmers are named and charged in a court of law, I don’t see any reason to act on this information. But I tell you what, if that day does come, they’ll be a lot harder to find than old Osama. You ever been out in that south west country? You can disappear out there real well.”

The Advocate also reached out to the FBI and CIA for comment but have yet to receive a reply.

More to come

I just KNEW you were a closet terrorist Roy

Farmer Roy · Jan 11, 2019

holwellcourtfarm said:
I just KNEW you were a closet terrorist Roy

Well, I WAS frisked down by security at a function in Jersey that Princess Anne was attending . . .
But that was a long time before 9/11

cows sh#t me to tears · Jan 11, 2019

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