Rms costs?

Headless chicken · Mar 30, 2019

dinderleat said:
What were your results like in the end

Haven’t done final scanning but cows considering what happened im very pleased.

Heifers from the initial scan made me seriously question why Im farming. It’s was probably the second worst day of my farming life. But we live in hope that the scanning was a bit off as things just didn’t tally!

Beef farmer · Mar 30, 2019

Headless chicken said:
We left Rms for an independent who used to be my tech.

My biggest issue with rms was the relief. I was royal fudgeed off with people turning up here who couldn’t give a sh!t that them having an off day had a massive effect on my business. Also with heifers in the mix this year I was faced with 2 different regular techs which meant probably upwards of 10 people to “watch” or as I like to see it 10 ways they can wriggle out of doing a pee poor job because they went out on the lash the night before and haven’t been to bed yet so can’t be arsed to chalk ( yes we had that beauty of a line before!)

I still choose to buy genus semen because they have the bulls I want.

176 cows
43 heifers
Spread over 2 farms cost me £5000 this year

5k fir semen and ai? You use bulls too?

Headless chicken · Mar 30, 2019

Beef farmer said:
5k fir semen and ai? You use bulls too?

Sorry should’ve been clearer that was just to my walk and chalk man semen on top. That was a horrific figure!! But we used a sh!t tonne of semen this year as an insurance and I’ve still got half of it left in the flask!

dinderleat · Mar 30, 2019

I think the ice fertility monitor system is £15 per a cow and you just lease the collars for that

Philip Bealing · Mar 30, 2019

Headless chicken said:
Sorry should’ve been clearer that was just to my walk and chalk man semen on top. That was a horrific figure!! But we used a sh!t tonne of semen this year as an insurance and I’ve still got half of it left in the flask!

£5000 a year to heat detect and inseminate your milkers and heifers thats less than £14 a day ,plus the cost of travelling ,

som farmer · Mar 30, 2019

Philip Bealing said:
£5000 a year to heat detect and inseminate your milkers and heifers thats less than £14 a day ,plus the cost of travelling ,

glad you liked my post, 10% discount ? virtually anything is cost effective, when compared with empty cows.
we had problems with getting the summer calvers to hold june/july/august, despite not seeing much activity most are I/c to stockbulls, I wonder if these cows actually got I/c, but lost it in the really hot weather? any thoughts?

farmboy · Mar 30, 2019

[QUOTE="Philip Bealing, post: 6130658, member: 43970"]One of the best farms i attend use nothing other than a dedicated herds manager and a stinky old bull in a bull pen next to the collecting area where the bulling cows stand ,this system could only be truly replicated if you could clone the manager.
The rest use a mixture of paint , scratch patches , Kamars and one of the many electronic systems ,each systems success is dependant on the enthusiasm of the herdsman , my role is to check any cow that there is a suspicion of being on heat before serving or recording and trying to support any relief milker to make sure no cows get missed on days off. its not unusual to have 4 cows to check and only 2 to serve , i encourage that, if there is any doubt keep it out for me to check .
As a side note one of the better farms this Autumn had no herdsman and was being milked by 5 different reliefs and being checked at night by 7 different people (not at the same time)
and we were relying on scratch patches, I think the reason it went so well is that the underlying herd fertility is good for many reasons and patches are idiot proof .[/QUOTE]
I hear he is a top bloke

farmboy · Mar 30, 2019

Headless chicken said:
Yes but that’s the wrong attitude. It’s irrelevant if your around because if you paid someone to do it you wouldn’t have to be. Cost your time into everything you do and a sensible rate

I’m being paid to be there anyway although admittedly I could be doing other things. In all honesty I don’t set aside dedicated time for it they just seem to catch my eye while I’m about, just depends how well you know your cows I suppose

Ducati899 · Mar 31, 2019

farmboy said:
I’m being paid to be there anyway although admittedly I could be doing other things. In all honesty I don’t set aside dedicated time for it they just seem to catch my eye while I’m about, just depends how well you know your cows I suppose

We’ve a bull by entrance to collecting yard,best heat detection ever,like yourself cows just seem to catch our eye throughout the day and if you know you’re cows you’re along way there [emoji1303]

Beef farmer · Mar 31, 2019

Ducati899 said:
We’ve a bull by entrance to collecting yard,best heat detection ever,like yourself cows just seem to catch our eye throughout the day and if you know you’re cows you’re along way there [emoji1303]

You holstien boys soon get to know your cows, they come bulling every 21 days

buffalo_soldier · Mar 31, 2019

Beef farmer said:
You holstien boys soon get to know your cows, they come bulling every 21 days

For clarity I only gave you a like because that's quite witty. Not because I agree one bit

farmboy · Mar 31, 2019

Beef farmer said:
You holstien boys soon get to know your cows, they come bulling every 21 days

When I say know your cows I kind of also meant how good you are at noticing cow behaviour. I’ve met herdsmen that couldn’t spot a lame/bulling/calving cow if they were stood next to it! We are all good at different things

Will Blackburn · Mar 31, 2019

Boll0cks to this knowing your cows, get a system set up so you can have a day off and still get cows in calf. I have a collar based system that doesn’t get hangovers and produces fantastic submission rates. If I was buying a system now I think I would lease without a semen tie in. Hardware and software is kept tip top that way.

Blue. · Mar 31, 2019

Will Blackburn said:
Boll0cks to this knowing your cows, get a system set up so you can have a day off and still get cows in calf. I have a collar based system that doesn’t get hangovers and produces fantastic submission rates. If I was buying a system now I think I would lease without a semen tie in. Hardware and software is kept tip top that way.

But your playing to the hands of ancillary suppliers and increasing efficiency.

Ok anyone lease and have a price for comparison?

Will Blackburn · Mar 31, 2019

eulb said:
But your playing to the hands of ancillary suppliers and increasing efficiency.

Ok anyone lease and have a price for comparison?

I had a quote for a new system leased when I needed a very substantial number of new and replacement collars. About £15 per head per year. The current supplier put a very good deal on the table on a collar purchase so stuck with them. If I had needed extra functions( lying, eating, ruminating) the competitor would have got the deal.

som farmer · Mar 31, 2019

only trouble with the systems we tried, the xbreds seem to be bulling for a couple of days, gets difficult when to serve

bigw · Mar 31, 2019

eulb said:
But your playing to the hands of ancillary suppliers and increasing efficiency.

Ok anyone lease and have a price for comparison?

Ice robotics do a 5 year lease deal on their heat detection that costs around £1.2-1.60 per cow per month if I remember correctly. The higher price includes lameness scoring and other stuff.

Davy · Mar 31, 2019

bigw said:
Ice robotics do a 5 year lease deal on their heat detection that costs around £1.2-1.60 per cow per month if I remember correctly. The higher price includes lameness scoring and other stuff.

That's not a bad deal when that covers replacement collars/pedometers. It only has to save a few cows from going to the cull to pay itself.

lazy farmer · Mar 31, 2019

eulb said:
But your playing to the hands of ancillary suppliers and increasing efficiency.

Ok anyone lease and have a price for comparison?

Nah when your aggressively paying down debt you soon get to work out what what other costsyou are prepared to farm out that you could do yourself.

bigw · Mar 31, 2019

Davy said:
That's not a bad deal when that covers replacement collars/pedometers. It only has to save a few cows from going to the cull to pay itself.

Don't quote me on the figures, I have it written down somewhere but cant find it. I thought the same and could really see the benefits if it was linked to a sort gate.

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