Who is the owner?

Yale · Apr 26, 2019

Here’s one for the legal team.

We have three stray ewes in a parcel of land.

One of them has lambed.

Who legally owns the lamb.

And to further complicate it we rent the parcel.

Just for fun however there must be a legal owner.

Henarar · Apr 26, 2019

I would think the lamb could apply for duel nationality and live where it wants

Still Farming · Apr 26, 2019

Ear tags registered too?

Yale · Apr 26, 2019

Still Farming said:
Ear tags registered too?

Ewes have got ear tags however did not enter fields with lamb,only in lamb.

Guiggs · Apr 26, 2019

The lamb should not be left without a field to call home after all it was not its choice, its mother may hate it's own field and may have actively left said field and even gone on to wage war against its former field mates but that shouldn't matter and that ewe should be granted legal aid to insure it can return home once its had it's fun and weather its lamb has since died if it was ever born in the first place!
I hope that helps?

Still Farming · Apr 26, 2019

Yale said:
Ewes have got ear tags however did not enter fields with lamb,only in lamb.

In lamb though?
Or ram as well came ???

Lili · Apr 26, 2019

The lamb is a minor and therefore the responsibility of its parent?

Yale · Apr 26, 2019

Still Farming said:
In lamb though?
Or ram as well came ???

In lamb.

To complicate landowner claims BPS so technically should it be tagged with his tag before leaving the field with a movement license meaning that it would be his.?

Cvx1170 · Apr 26, 2019

Technically it belongs to its holding of birth, whoever has the holding number is liable for it and should tag it with their number

Johngee · Apr 26, 2019

Henarar said:
I would think the lamb could apply for duel nationality and live where it wants

And have whatever gender it chooses!

Henarar · Apr 26, 2019

Johngee said:
And have whatever gender it chooses!

if indeed it chooses one
it may prefer not to identify
well until there is a nice ewe in the next field then it will decide its a tup if indeed it is

betweenthelines · Apr 26, 2019

I think this is an elaborate con trick. Certainly, at least one victim has been fleeced, another has had the wool pulled over her eyes. Smuggling may be involved as one of them is clearly a mule. Both may be for the chop and will be grilled. But the whole thing may be a diversion for a ram raid.

I don't know whether the story is true or not, do ewe?

Danllan · Apr 26, 2019

Cvx1170 said:
Technically it belongs to its holding of birth, whoever has the holding number is liable for it and should tag it with their number

Technically...

… it belongs to the owner of the ewe.

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*Legal opinion only valid in England & Wales, application in other jurisdictions may lead to valid and possibly actionable accusations of bullsh!t.

beefandsleep · Apr 26, 2019

Danllan said:
Technically... [emoji57]… it belongs to the owner of the ewe. *

*Legal opinion only valid in England & Wales, application in other jurisdictions may lead to valid and poosibly actionable accusations of bullsh!t.

And also morally in my view. Have you contacted the owner and asked him to move them? First offence or pee take?

Danllan · Apr 26, 2019

beefandsleep said:
And also morally in my view. Have you contacted the owner and asked him to move them? First offence or pee take?

Well, the law and justice aren't always the same, but they do coincide sometimes.

RushesToo · Apr 26, 2019

Yale said:
Here’s one for the legal team.

We have three stray ewes in a parcel of land.

One of them has lambed.

Who legally owns the lamb.

And to further complicate it we rent the parcel.

Just for fun however there must be a legal owner.

I hear there's good eating on them.
Just keep in mind any ears tags should be put in the appropriate recycling bin - domestic disposal rules are clearly the only one that apply.

mark perego · Apr 26, 2019

Have you been on the sauce?

RushesToo · Apr 26, 2019

Dear @mark perego

I felt I was returning this somewhat jovial thread . . .

Cvx1170 said:
Technically it belongs to its holding of birth, whoever has the holding number is liable for it and should tag it with their number

Johngee said:
And have whatever gender it chooses!

Henarar said:
if indeed it chooses one
it may prefer not to identify
well until there is a nice ewe in the next field then it will decide its a tup if indeed it is

, , , to a sense of normality, but if it helps your perception of the world, yes and by the way of some rather good Hawkes Bay produce.

Grem · Apr 27, 2019

No-one will own it until it is fat enough for market and then everyone will lay claim, especially if it needs a vet.

Yale · Apr 27, 2019

beefandsleep said:
And also morally in my view. Have you contacted the owner and asked him to move them? First offence or pee take?

The landowner tried to identify the owner.

That’s as much as I know as I haven’t seen him after.

We put our sheep there however I wasn’t going to waste my time pi55ing around chasing three scraggy Welsh ewes,wasting half a day to return them.

They then started to lamb.

We’ll gather them in with ours when we pen them.

So......no definitive answer who the legal owner of the lamb is?

But they’re not ours.

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