Concrete yard - spec and cost

bert · Jul 15, 2019

What depth of hardcore are people putting under the concrete?

Derky said:
Always use PAV2 with fibres on outside pours. Do tend to pour in 6 metre bays though with a good expansion joint inbetween.

So you don't mesh when you use this?

Wazmos · Jul 15, 2019

I had the yard redone last August,
We went 200mm concrete with mesh and fibres, had a bloke I know lay it with a drivable laser screed.
Poured it all in one lot, no messing about setting shutters up. Would highly recommend one.

Steevo · Jul 15, 2019

bert said:
What depth of hardcore are people putting under the concrete?

So you don't mesh when you use this?

Min 300mm compacted stone.

Steevo · Jul 15, 2019

Wazmos said:
I had the yard redone last August,
We went 200mm concrete with mesh and fibres, had a bloke I know lay it with a drivable laser screed.
Poured it all in one lot, no messing about setting shutters up. Would highly recommend one.

Agreed. Big improvement on laying manually. Just depends on the volume you are laying.

Up to 250 cube a day is standard for one of those machines.

Still Farming · Jul 15, 2019

Werzle said:
Water capital grant isnt it. Im not 100% sure but its all to do with water run off

Don't varst areas of concrete accelerate this problem not lessen it?

Werzle · Jul 16, 2019

Still Farming said:
Don't varst areas of concrete accelerate this problem not lessen it?

I think its more about keeping the run off water cleaner. They want to stop it running through the cracks in your old concrete

mo! · Jul 16, 2019

Still Farming said:
Don't varst areas of concrete accelerate this problem not lessen it?

We can sweep the muck off our yard, not so easy if it is potholed tarmac scalpings and stone.

Anyway, don't ask why, just take the money.

Still Farming · Jul 16, 2019

mo! said:
We can sweep the muck off our yard, not so easy if it is potholed tarmac scalpings and stone.

Anyway, don't ask why, just take the money.

Yer.
Thats why under the new suds regulations all water produced and or accumulated on site got to stay on site ,so new concrete new regs apply we guess!

milkloss · Jul 16, 2019

Werzle said:
Water capital grant isnt it. Im not 100% sure but its all to do with water run off

And being on the right side of the line...... catchment sensitive farming areas only.

Steevo · Jul 16, 2019

These are only for those in environmental schemes too, yes?

mo! · Jul 16, 2019

Steevo said:
These are only for those in environmental schemes too, yes?

If you're the right side of the line there is a standalone scheme separate to Mid Tier. Or there was. The maximum grant is limited to 10k IIFRC, whereas the full fat mid tier has no limit.

farmerm · Dec 10, 2019

ooooh walking out onto concrete rather than mud that would be nice

…We are inside a Countryside Stewardship high water quality priority area

Clearly missed the 2019 deadline but applications set to re-open 1st Jan... Anyone been successful with these Water Capital Grants for concrete? How far does £10,000 of concrete go these days?

tw15 · Dec 10, 2019

About 100 cube of concrete I recon and a bit of change left for labour.

farmerm · Dec 10, 2019

tw15 said:
About 100 cube of concrete I recon and a bit of change left for labour.

Is my math wrong or at 200mm depth that's only 7m square?

the tight gits

I could find home for at least 1000cube and that's before doing the lane... Still it would be better than nothing I suppose... I read there is no limit as part of a new CSS application... but ours still has a year to run

Blue. · Dec 10, 2019

farmerm said:
Is my math wrong or at 200mm depth that's only 7m square? the tight gits I could find home for at least 1000cube and that's before doing the lane... Still it would be better than nothing I suppose... I read there is no limit as part of a new CSS application... but ours still has a year to run

Your maths are wrong! 7m square by 200mm would need 1.4 cube of concrete

Steevo · Dec 10, 2019

eulb said:
Your maths are wrong! 7m square by 200mm would need 1.4 cube of concrete

7m x 7m x 0.2m = 9.8m3

Blue. · Dec 10, 2019

Steevo said:
7m x 7m x 0.2m = 9.8m3

I was thinking 1x7 x.200....

br jones · Dec 10, 2019

farmerm said:
Is my math wrong or at 200mm depth that's only 7m square? the tight gits I could find home for at least 1000cube and that's before doing the lane... Still it would be better than nothing I suppose... I read there is no limit as part of a new CSS application... but ours still has a year to run

500 sqm

MacMarshalls · Dec 10, 2019

mo! said:
We've had some on the water capital as a standalone and then as part of Mid Tier. Standard costs which was pretty much what it cost. Only available in target areas and needs Catchment Sensitive Farming Officer (CSFO) endorsement.

Werzle said:
Water capital grant isnt it. Im not 100% sure but its all to do with water run off

There are grants available for concreting depending on location.

drop me an email and I will be able to look into this:

[email protected]

Rob

farmerm · Dec 10, 2019

br jones said:
500 sqm

now that makes more sense

I am getting excited by the though of 500sqm of concrete

Time to find my CSFO officer...

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