Chris Davis MP.

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
I thought they had petitioned him or whatever it's called .
Local constituents can petition the recall of an MP when he has digressed as in making fake invoices to charge against expenses. Incidentally I sympathise with him on this.
He was caught doing such things and a petition was launched. Obviously the local party supported him and made him their candidate.
It may have helped Boris if they had selected another
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
You wouldn't of expected a remain cabal at the head of the previous Tory cabinet to of exerted any amount of pressure to have a whiter than white leaver candidate forward. Would you?
The guy was an out and out tit.
Brainless. Comitting fraud to try to cover up something that was okay anyways.
I thought these guys were supposed to be far more intelligent than us plebs?
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
You wouldn't of expected a remain cabal at the head of the previous Tory cabinet to of exerted any amount of pressure to have a whiter than white leaver candidate forward. Would you?
The guy was an out and out tit.
Brainless. Comitting fraud to try to cover up something that was okay anyways.
I thought these guys were supposed to be far more intelligent than us plebs?
Chris Davies was a committed leaver who was recalled over expenses for decorating his office.
However he had previous form, claiming £5,000 odd for a release just before the previous election, which could not have reached the electorate before the dismissal of parliament. This is not permitted.
Tit he may have been but certainly a Brexiteer tit!
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
Chris Davies was a committed leaver who was recalled over expenses for decorating his office.
However he had previous form, claiming £5,000 odd for a release just before the previous election, which could not have reached the electorate before the dismissal of parliament. This is not permitted.
Tit he may have been but certainly a Brexiteer tit!

I don't dispute he was a brexiteer.
That's beside the point.
His promotion as candidate was odds on to cause chaos and reduce the Tory majority.
The previous remainer knew this and did nothing and are probably partying hard tonight over the result.
 
The default position of Art 50 is to leave with no deal , if an acceptable deal has not been reached
Hmmm, I think the fact we not leave March 31st with No Deal sort of scuppers that theory. Indeed if that was true then why did Mogg and Boris etc vote in favour of Mays deal at the third attempt when (based on your theory) we would leave with No Deal anyway.
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
Hmmm, I think the fact we not leave March 31st with No Deal sort of scuppers that theory. Indeed if that was true then why did Mogg and Boris etc vote in favour of Mays deal at the third attempt when (based on your theory) we would leave with No Deal anyway.

We can extend art 50 , if we ask nicely , but if we don't then the default position applies .

Mrs May asked for an extension , Boris won't .
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
The default position of Art 50 is to leave with no deal , if an acceptable deal has not been reached
The Brexit bill, passed as a result of Gina Miller’s legal action certainly does not give powers to the government to leave willy nilly.
However it certainly gave the PM permission to send formal notice under article 50 of withdrawing. The effect of this is that we do leave after 2 years unless there are exceptional circumstances.
Theresa Mays gross mistake was enacting this, by sending formal notice, until that point, she held all the aces in the pack. Sadly she turned up her hand to reveal no trumps at all.
This is politics, it could have played for years until we had the right deal, but she may have been out of office by then
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
I don't dispute he was a brexiteer.
That's beside the point.
His promotion as candidate was odds on to cause chaos and reduce the Tory majority.
The previous remainer knew this and did nothing and are probably partying hard tonight over the result.
I very much doubt the local Conservative party gave a ***** about TM’s views. He was a popular local man who if the” The Brexit Party “ gave one toss would have withdrawn and the conservatives would probably have had a shoe in.
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
The Brexit bill, passed as a result of Gina Miller’s legal action certainly does not give powers to the government to leave willy nilly.
However it certainly gave the PM permission to send formal notice under article 50 of withdrawing. The effect of this is that we do leave after 2 years unless there are exceptional circumstances.
Theresa Mays gross mistake was enacting this, by sending formal notice, until that point, she held all the aces in the pack. Sadly she turned up her hand to reveal no trumps at all.
This is politics, it could have played for years until we had the right deal, but she may have been out of office by then

That isn't correct , Gina Millers case stated Article 50 could not be enacted without approval of Parliament .... which she got .

The procedure of Article 50 after the enactment is unaffected .
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
I very much doubt the local Conservative party gave a ***** about TM’s views. He was a popular local man who if the” The Brexit Party “ gave one toss would have withdrawn and the conservatives would probably have had a shoe in.

I doubt the BP do give a toss.
I don't give a toss.

Boris voted for May's deal.
Moggy voted for May's deal.
Boris says he will put Nige back in his box.
If the Tories had of stayed out of Peterbrough, the BP would of won.

I don't think Boris and Co even want to win and deliver a brexit.
They are shitting theirselves over what they unleashed.

But the genie is out of the bottle now.
 
We can extend art 50 , if we ask nicely , but if we don't then the default position applies .

Mrs May asked for an extension , Boris won't .
Your theory that we simply leave with No Deal in the event of failing to agree a deal is misguided, my point was parliament wont allow it and have a number of options at their disposal to ensure it does not happen, which is why we had all the talk of Boris proroguing parliament. In any case Boris has only limited cards to play in support of a No Deal, nameley the ability to do a super trade deal with the USA, and that is now slipping away due to congress position over an Irish border. No Deal is as dead as Mays deal....
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
You havent said what is wrong with Jane Dodds.Its a genuine question,i dont know much about her,but you will do,as she lives in Welshpool and put up as a candidate in Montgomeryshire twice i think.

Imo she is a stereotypical ‘wishy washy’ liberal. Yes, she’s stood here a couple of times (you might be surprised to hear that she didn’t get my vote), and failed to get in. Seemingly quite well thought of amongst the ‘wishy washy liberal’ types that inhabit the local town, but I certainly wouldn’t want her, or her type, making decisions above local level.
The statement about hunting Boris down in Westminster and demanding he take no-deal off the table, is just typical of the self important ‘I know better than you’ attitude imo. And that’s from a ‘remoaner’.....
 
Im no expert but I'm pretty sure passing a bill on Art 50 is not the same as passing a bill to leave with No Deal........


You muppets are hilarious.

The EU didn't even create a "Deal" before the Brexit Referendum.

Just what planet are you on ?

The ONLY Deal that was discussed before the EU Referendum was a Trade Deal.


The EU & Theresa May spent 3 YEARS not even talking about it.

You're damn right you ain't "No Expert"
 
I doubt the BP do give a toss.
I don't give a toss.

Boris voted for May's deal.
Moggy voted for May's deal.
Boris says he will put Nige back in his box.
If the Tories had of stayed out of Peterbrough, the BP would of won.

I don't think Boris and Co even want to win and deliver a brexit.
They are shitting theirselves over what they unleashed.

But the genie is out of the bottle now.


There is some merit to this ..

But the biggest genie out of the bottle is the complete lack of representation in London for the majority of the UK.

Must be a lot of people now willing to hold MPs over an open fire.
 

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