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Holsteinfriesian90 · Aug 27, 2019

Princess Pooper said:
We have a few Goodwhone second calvers, she is the only heifer, but we went back to him again for more constituents, so lots of Goodwhone calves this year.

Any fantastic calves yet?

pappuller · Aug 27, 2019

Ducati899 said:
I wouldn’t use anything else here but stalosan,can’t remember what my last pallet cost but worth every penny

How often do you use it and how many cubicles/bag ?

jimmer · Aug 27, 2019

Bald Rick said:
One of today's key jobs ... disinfecting cubicles to get to the bottom of our bacto problem

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Thought you had a bacto issue, not scc

Ducati899 · Aug 27, 2019

pappuller said:
How often do you use it and how many cubicles/bag ?

15kg bag will do a week on 147 cubicles,I split it and do half a bag on a weds morning and the other half on a Sunday morning

Bald Rick · Aug 28, 2019

Today, we have mainly been installing milk meters - to test quarterly for Johnes

Bald Rick · Aug 28, 2019

jimmer said:
Thought you had a bacto issue, not scc

Bacto mainly but cells are leaping about too so doing anything & everything we can to get these down to bonus level.

Grassman247 · Aug 28, 2019

Bald Rick said:
Today, we have mainly been installing milk meters - to test quarterly for Johnes

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If I had bacto problems I wouldn’t be adding yet another place for bacteria to hide, in fact I’d be doing the opposite, stripping the parlour back to nothing.

Bald Rick · Aug 28, 2019

Grassman247 said:
If I had bacto problems I wouldn’t be adding yet another place for bacteria to hide, in fact I’d be doing the opposite, stripping the parlour back to nothing.

It's not a raging problem per se but one that needs addressing.
However we are obliged by our dairy to undergo Johnes testing and doing sampling quarterly not only address that but also allows us to manage the disease out of the herd

lazy farmer · Aug 28, 2019

Bald Rick said:
It's not a raging problem per se but one that needs addressing.
However we are obliged by our dairy to undergo Johnes testing and doing sampling quarterly not only address that but also allows us to manage the disease out of the herd

Let us know how that goes.....

PercyBlakeney · Aug 28, 2019

Bald Rick said:
It's not a raging problem per se but one that needs addressing.
However we are obliged by our dairy to undergo Johnes testing and doing sampling quarterly not only address that but also allows us to manage the disease out of the herd

Do the new red tractor rules that come into play in October not now mean that most herds that are breeding their own replacements will have to be testing for Johnes - assuming they are feeding herd replacements colostrum?

Milkcow365 · Aug 28, 2019

Bald Rick said:
Bacto mainly but cells are leaping about too so doing anything & everything we can to get these down to bonus level.

Have you or son did both milkings in a day just to see if its human error or not? Have you many 3 spinners ?l

Agrispeed · Aug 28, 2019

I didn't think there were any milk samplers that were clean enough for Johne's testing. I strip onto the pots here but it's an arse to do.

vantage · Aug 28, 2019

Agrispeed said:
I didn't think there were any milk samplers that were clean enough for Johne's testing. I strip onto the pots here but it's an arse to do.

I wasn’t aware of this. We started testing this spring and summer, fitting in between Tb tests,allowing 60 days between Tb testing and Johnes testing. Until this last twelve months we had never had a Johnes case, this last year 5 have died or been sent off. We have had a closed herd for 15 years, beef bulls only from high health attested herd , so can only assume it has come in via slurry kit from contractor. First milk test revealed about 10 reds.

lazy farmer · Aug 28, 2019

Agrispeed said:
I didn't think there were any milk samplers that were clean enough for Johne's testing. I strip onto the pots here but it's an arse to do.

Sorry but I’m not convinced by this argument. It has tended to come from Herds who have claimed that they are clear when in fact they’re not in fact I know of one herd who went as far as blood testing ithe Cows after getting some reds cOnly for them all to come back as positive on the bloods. The more data you have over an elongated period will nullifiy any potential risk from the metres contamination.

Bald Rick · Aug 28, 2019

lazy farmer said:
Let us know how that goes.....

Been blood testing & tagging since we started but on an annual basis as our nucleus herd came from Denmark albeit from herds that were testing in any case. Have about 2% or less that are flagged and milk testing allows us another string to the bow plus we can get bacto & SCC on an individual basis too. Reaching the point where we can now start to selective thin rather than grow numbers

lazy farmer · Aug 28, 2019

What are doing with the tagged ones that’s different?

Bald Rick · Aug 28, 2019

lazy farmer said:
What are doing with the tagged ones that’s different?

Beef, separate calving area, no admixing of colostrum or keeping it if we have surplus.
Not a lot else one can do really. When it strikes, they go down hill fast & it's obvious but it's not unusual for a cow that is supposedly a carrier to go on for 5 or more lactations

jimmer · Aug 28, 2019

Bald Rick said:
Bacto mainly but cells are leaping about too so doing anything & everything we can to get these down to bonus level.

With bacto I would say there's an
80% chance it's the tank
10% chance it's the plate cooler
5% chance it's the wash cycle / air blaster
5% chance it's something else

Bald Rick · Aug 28, 2019

jimmer said:
With bacto I would say there's an
80% chance it's the tank
10% chance it's the plate cooler
5% chance it's the wash cycle / air blaster
5% chance it's something else

Wont disagree. Rumbling around 60-80 with the occasional flare up to 130+ so more of a chronic problem but very annoying. We will find the cause eventually but we are trying to eliminate things that we can do relatively easily ourselves such as improve bed hygiene, teat prep etc and let the "experts" lose on the plant side

jimmer · Aug 28, 2019

Put an extra litre of circulation cleaner in with your wash cycle on tank

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