Danllan
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I am afraid that's just wishful thinking. They know best, nothing else matters but that they get their way.They may well vote with the Government tommorow. It could have been a protest today
I am afraid that's just wishful thinking. They know best, nothing else matters but that they get their way.They may well vote with the Government tommorow. It could have been a protest today
Been like that for decades so they are not going to change nowI am afraid that's just wishful thinking. They know best, nothing else matters but that they get their way.
I am afraid that's just wishful thinking. They know best, nothing else matters but that they get their way.
Even a simple tin of Ronseal does what it saysYou would like MPs to just parrot the party line at all times?
Even a simple tin of Ronseal does what it says
I would like MPs to respect the express wish of the people at all times.You would like MPs to just parrot the party line at all times?
I would like MPs to respect the express wish of the people at all times.
We have a 'representative' democracy, which means that we elect 'representatives' as opposed to delegates to use their judgement to make decisions for us. Fair enough, although not perfect it's a sufficiently good system for most of the time, because we can't be having endless national referenda on all issues down to the extension on the new runway at Middlesbrough Airport - assuming there is one . But where, on a specific issue, the electorate's will is known, they must heed it, end of story. And for those patently opposed to that will to pretend otherwise and continually prevaricate is contemptible.
I would also like MPs to adhere to keep their promises. In the case of the Conservatives, that means leaving the EU, CU, SM and all.
This isn't true at all. They will certainly support a GE, just not until a law banning no deal is passed. Otherwise they all think Boris will just lie and change the election date until after the leave date. Don't worry, you'll almost certainly still get an election booked by the end of the week or next week at the latest.
I would like MPs to respect the express wish of the people at all times.
We have a 'representative' democracy, which means that we elect 'representatives' as opposed to delegates to use their judgement to make decisions for us. Fair enough, although not perfect it's a sufficiently good system for most of the time, because we can't be having endless national referenda on all issues down to the extension on the new runway at Middlesbrough Airport - assuming there is one . But where, on a specific issue, the electorate's will is known, they must heed it, end of story. And for those patently opposed to that will to pretend otherwise and continually prevaricate is contemptible.
I would also like MPs to adhere to keep their promises. In the case of the Conservatives, that means leaving the EU, CU, SM and all.
I believe Kate Hoey of Labour is an ardent Brexiteer, when she represents a remain constituency? A rebel, has she had the whip withdrawn?You don't specify which people's wish you'd like them to respect. Last I checked an MP's responsibility was primarily to their constituents. If an MP is from a constituency that backs Remain, then why should they put the wishes of people outside their constituency ahead of their own constituents? What happens when those constituents now wish something different to three years ago? Should that MP now put the wishes of the previous population of their constituency (many of whom may have died/moved away/changed their mind) ahead of the wishes of the current population?
Do these promises include those made by the Leave campaign MP's during the referendum campaign, or can we casually brush those under the table? How about Daniel Hannan saying 'Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market' back in April 2016? Or does that not count because he's only an MEP and therefore can lie at will?
You don't specify which people's wish you'd like them to respect. Last I checked an MP's responsibility was primarily to their constituents. If an MP is from a constituency that backs Remain, then why should they put the wishes of people outside their constituency ahead of their own constituents? What happens when those constituents now wish something different to three years ago? Should that MP now put the wishes of the previous population of their constituency (many of whom may have died/moved away/changed their mind) ahead of the wishes of the current population?
Do these promises include those made by the Leave campaign MP's during the referendum campaign, or can we casually brush those under the table? How about Daniel Hannan saying 'Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market' back in April 2016? Or does that not count because he's only an MEP and therefore can lie at will?
I believe Kate Hoey of Labour is an ardent Brexiteer, when she represents a remain constituency? A rebel, has she had the whip withdrawn?
The no deal legislation has to be one of the most pointless pieces of legislation ever conceived.
There is a clear parliamentary convention that says no parliament can bind its successor.
So Corbyn gets his 'no deal' legislation passed and an election is called. If the conservatives win a majority, the first piece of legislation they will pass will be one revoking the Corbyn 'no deal' legislation.
Then Johnston will push ahead with leaving the EU on 31st October with or without a deal.
I’we lost track of all the things Johnson has said. Most of them turnout to be bollox. Typical journalist like Gove and Rees Mogg.Didn't bj say more or less what he was going to do before he was elected and still got most votes from con mp's and the rest of the party
Who's the most popular then?
he certainly knows how to wave itA bloke with a lump of willow apparently
This is true, but that express wish gives no direction to the way in which the UK leaves, hard/soft/deal/no deal. Also, no time frame was given as to when we should leave.The only express wish outstanding is to leave the EU.
I don't remember hard or soft being mentioned before the referendum, I only remember leave or remain.This is true, but that express wish gives no direction to the way in which the UK leaves, hard/soft/deal/no deal. Also, no time frame was given as to when we should leave.
This is true, but that express wish gives no direction to the way in which the UK leaves, hard/soft/deal/no deal. Also, no time frame was given as to when we should leave.
Hard or Soft certainly was discussed along with how easy it would be to negotiate at deal.I don't remember hard or soft being mentioned before the referendum, I only remember leave or remain.
Cameron stated that if there was a vote to leave, article 50 would be activated on the 28th June 2016, this would be followed by 2 years of negotiations and if a deal couldn't be reached we would leave and operate on WTO rules.