pine_guy
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yes, have a load coming to add.Not something I’ve really fed a lot off, but feel could do with a bit more Umff. Thinking of trying bread as well.
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Plain steer
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Why is 4 less per kg than 5
livestock 1
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Starchy stuff is good at the end. Bread is good if you have enough cattle to eat it before it goes mouldy. We used a lot of potatoes in the past put skins on cattle like seals but had the odd blockage didn’t loose any but kept the length of hosepipe handy after the vet showed us how to use it
pine_guy
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Five in dunbia the other week. 4 bought in as 10 day old calves for £10. Summer at grass, and then same grub as the BB (wintered together) Killed at 26/27 month. So good three month younger than the BB. One bought as weaned calf for £80, not a good dooer, killed are 34month and only £100 behind the 36month BB.
think that answers your question.
pine_guy
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Don’t know, in with my stewards enquiry as to why one was a o-
You ever tried keeping them in and pushing them harder? Less days on farm but maybe more cost. Not that you need to change your system just wondered if you’d tried other ways.
pine_guy
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Have 100 to go into my cubicle refit shed which we nearly finished today. They will be on a TMR with just enough silage to keep the gut right. So should manage to get through bread quick enough for a month or too.
gone up the hill
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Everyone of those cattle will have lost money in real terms due to the purchase price ( which is what calves etc were making back then ) and the high amount of days on farm!
Will cost £1/ head day even on a very low grass based system let alone on ad lib feed which will be £2 or more head a day!
pine_guy
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Yes, but I think it costs too much to grow a frame on a BW steer. They do well in the summer with plenty of grass in front of them, sometimes get a bite of meal at grass if maybe under 6month when kicked out. Then onto as lib around two years. With barley as low as it is this year, They will get a good flight of it with the silage as it’s probably cheaper than grass silage if you work it out on dry matter.
I’ve done them as bulls as well. Thinking of doing a pen with some weaned calves now, and have a pen of odds and sods that didn’t really group with anything that will hopefully go before Xmas for a bit of beer money. But bulls can be tricky to shift on a bad trade, had a 100 ready similar time few years back when you couldn’t give them away. That stung.
gone up the hill
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Stick to steers.
It was nigh on impossible to get rid of good suckler bred bulls last summer let alone dairy bred ones!
pine_guy
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You need to pay less for your grass rent. That’s dairy boy prices ? but yes, the ad-lib feed bit will have been £2-£2-40 a day depending what price you put on barley.
pine_guy
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We have a reasonable live trade for bulls up north. My suckler bulls into ABP last year I was quite happy with.
Yeah I know what you mean. I’ve reared some with the intention of doing the bull route this year. Just as barley is so cheap an we don’t have enough ground to graze them all. Although my only worry is nobody wanting them in 8 months time. Hopefully that’s not the case though.
gone up the hill
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Work out the cost of grass properly ( and I don't mean like boss farmer ) and you wont be far off £1 head a day!
livestock 1
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Yes that’s plenty to go at it. I fattened some on grainbeet quite cheaply years ago but it’s no good if you are in a hurry. Although it makes a good job when you get there. Biscuitmeal?? Don’t know how much it is atm
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- North of Perth
Sure we pay around £140 for biscuit.not easy got hold of though.cattle do well on it
livestock 1
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The last was £160 up here it would be ok at £140
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Possibly be dearer no 100% sure.my old man deals with it.be on contract till April
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did it ? sheep were at least 30% undervalued since February and still are . it also delayed the carcass splitting rules being lifted , and trading uncertainty is hurting us going forward . at least if we were out we could be looking elsewhere to make up shortfall in trade .Bring on an election either way we can plan for future
livestock 1
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Yes 100% correct. We’ve had around 6 crunch dates where we were supposed to be coming out every time causing slaughterhouses to slow down so they weren’t left with meat subject to tariffs and general uncertainty.