mghley
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Market Drayton 1500 hoggs sqq 220p overall 215p
Your brother's cattle were some beauties today kev, they sold well but they were obviously bred and hadnt been stuffed eitherNo not at all he’s pleased with the trade BUT for how long is it going to hold with the current situation we are in regarding processors etc?
Not seen any fat prices
Incorrect.Only reason death rates have gone up the last two days is because they have changed the way they record ALL deaths, if you are short of breath/ cough/ fever etc when you call a doctor and tell them that then drop dead say 5 minutes later they will put your death down to the virus even thou you haven't been tested for it.
Daily death rates currently are below the normal average for this time of year I believe.
So he didn’t want to go to the mart and stay in his vehicle due to health reasons but spent the morning in an abattoir discussing offal
Hi.Sorry missed your post, was a busy day yesterday.This particular farmer was a hill farmer on high ground, he didn't want to go to the mart because the traditional English buyers would have had his pants down in the mart. His hoggs weren't fancy enough for the white English butchers. You know the usual snobbery, some had horns and not many had an arse like Kim Kardashian. Deep down we all know a lean, fit free grazing hill lamb tastes far superior to any Beltex, but I appreciate that the market demands muscle.
But do you know what, because the ethnic butchers need that grade of hill lamb, we paid him a fair price. We paid him the equivalent to the mart average for all hoggs sold on the same day which included Beltex, Suffolk and texels (plus he saved nearly £1000 in commission). We saved the same on haulage so everyone was happy.
I know farmers dealing with abattoirs and being happy with the outcome, goes against forum rules on here. This will now give an open invitation to the usual suspects to gang up, so I apologise for the happy ending and for hurting anyones feelings .
So at first he didn’t want to go to the mart because he was gravely concerned for his health and well being...then it was because he didn’t want to get his pants pulled down by an English butcherSorry missed your post, was a busy day yesterday.This particular farmer was a hill farmer on high ground, he didn't want to go to the mart because the traditional English buyers would have had his pants down in the mart. His hoggs weren't fancy enough for the white English butchers. You know the usual snobbery, some had horns and not many had an arse like Kim Kardashian. Deep down we all know a lean, fit free grazing hill lamb tastes far superior to any Beltex, but I appreciate that the market demands muscle.
But do you know what, because the ethnic butchers need that grade of hill lamb, we paid him a fair price. We paid him the equivalent to the mart average for all hoggs sold on the same day which included Beltex, Suffolk and texels (plus he saved nearly £1000 in commission). We saved the same on haulage so everyone was happy.
I know farmers dealing with abattoirs and being happy with the outcome, goes against forum rules on here. This will now give an open invitation to the usual suspects to gang up, so I apologise for the happy ending and for hurting anyones feelings .
one of the biggest issues in the industry is the cloak of secrecy that goes on beyond the market . i can only think its to control the price , There is no information on whats required on a weekly let alone monthly basis , if we as farmers knew there was a demand we can get the hoppers in and produce whats required in a few weeks time , or take them out and even out supply Better lambs for you and known cost for us , . Main reason farmers were unhappy last week was getting to mart and no trade they just threw us under the bus , we are well aware of the crisis and it would affect us , , Just issue a statement on what sort of numbers are required as a processing industry (through ADHB if necessary) , then we could stay at home if you dont need lamb or beef , Forward Pricing everything on our behalf is either retrospective , a good guess or blind luck, They (supermarkets) would be buying NZ 8 or 10 weeks previous, so they must know what they are going to put on shelves and pricing well in advance, FFS pass some of that down the chain . we might not like it but gives us a heads up .Any Lamb "EXPORT" buyers buying in the markets today?? This will be a gauge to where the trade is going if they are active-- Thanks
Because this is a public forum it maybe worth me giving the reason for what I call difficult honest and frank discussion rather than ‘bitching’ as you like to put it.Can we please have an end to the constant bitching on this thread . Remember it's a open forum and the constant carping doesn't do the forum or the farming industry any favours at all . We need public support - possibly more now than at any other time !
There is no information on whats required on a weekly let alone monthly basis , if we as farmers knew there was a demand we can get the hoppers in and produce whats required in a few weeks time
Because this is a public forum it maybe worth me giving the reason for what I call difficult honest and frank discussion rather than ‘bitching’ as you like to put it.
Some of us on here are producers of beef and lamb. We are passionate and hard working and do not make a fortune out of what we do considering the amount of time and effort we put in. At the moment we are seeing empty shelves in supermarkets, high prices in supermarkets, massively reduced farmgate prices for all sheep, massively reduced demand for all sheep, declining demand for beef, declining farmgate beef prices, we are hearing that supermarkets are doing everything they can to feed the nation all the while they are importing NZ lamb and importing Polish beef.
When shelves become empty we as producers get blamed for the shortages by the supermarkets.
We demand answers.
Hope this helps.
its really sad as a primary producer , i have to go to places like this to get some idea of whats going onWhat a novel idea, supplying what the market wants!
Do the direct suppliers get that information? We want x lambs for November, they you book in what you can supply and get a fixed price?
So at first he didn’t want to go to the mart because he was gravely concerned for his health and well being...then it was because he didn’t want to get his pants pulled down by an English butcher
Maybe this farmer used to be indecisive but now he’s not so sure
anyway at least you paid him a fair price...that will of been a great help to both his health and his arse
A fair price is all any of us want
We do deal with more then one farmer, it's a big world out there when you travel past the farm gates and actually come off the farming forum and have a look around.
Hereford today Hoggs(702) av 214ppk. NSL(69) av 239ppk. Cull ewes (218) av £74. Stores (242) av £62. Quite shocking to see the headage numbers so low for a market that would usually have thousands upon thousands at this time of year but keeping numbers low will help the trade. 600 store cattle there tomorrow and fingers are crossed for tidy trade.
Larry will be chuckling into his horlicks. The barstewardIf after what I’ve seen on social media about Polish beef being imported is true anyone that still supplies ABP from here on in needs their heads looking at!!!
In the future how would you price this gentleman’s sheep taking out the advance of being able to use the live auctions for a guide to help you both?