mghley
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- Location
- Derbyshire
Market Drayton 1500 hoggs sqq 220p overall 215p
Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker
- Thread starter TFF
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- Location
- central scotland
Maybe not the end of the world that trade
sherg
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- Location
- shropshire
Your brother's cattle were some beauties today kev, they sold well but they were obviously bred and hadnt been stuffed either
- Location
- Devon
Incorrect.
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Av Gorritt
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- NE Ches / SE Lancs
Can we please have an end to the constant bitching on this thread . Remember it's a open forum and the constant carping doesn't do the forum or the farming industry any favours at all . We need public support - possibly more now than at any other time !
Sorry missed your post, was a busy day yesterday.This particular farmer was a hill farmer on high ground, he didn't want to go to the mart because the traditional English buyers would have had his pants down in the mart. His hoggs weren't fancy enough for the white English butchers. You know the usual snobbery, some had horns
and not many had an arse like Kim Kardashian. Deep down we all know a lean, fit free grazing hill lamb tastes far superior to any Beltex, but I appreciate that the market demands muscle.But do you know what, because the ethnic butchers need that grade of hill lamb, we paid him a fair price. We paid him the equivalent to the mart average for all hoggs sold on the same day which included Beltex, Suffolk and texels (plus he saved nearly £1000 in commission). We saved the same on haulage so everyone was happy.
I know farmers dealing with abattoirs and being happy with the outcome, goes against forum rules on here. This will now give an open invitation to the usual suspects to gang up, so I apologise for the happy ending and for hurting anyones feelings
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livestock 1
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Hi.Sorry missed your post, was a busy day yesterday.This particular farmer was a hill farmer on high ground, he didn't want to go to the mart because the traditional English buyers would have had his pants down in the mart. His hoggs weren't fancy enough for the white English butchers. You know the usual snobbery, some had horns
But do you know what, because the ethnic butchers need that grade of hill lamb, we paid him a fair price. We paid him the equivalent to the mart average for all hoggs sold on the same day which included Beltex, Suffolk and texels (plus he saved nearly £1000 in commission). We saved the same on haulage so everyone was happy.
I know farmers dealing with abattoirs and being happy with the outcome, goes against forum rules on here. This will now give an open invitation to the usual suspects to gang up, so I apologise for the happy ending and for hurting anyones feelings
In the future either the imminent future or the distant future, it may be difficult or unclear for either the farmer or yourself to place a price on these sheep which is pleasing for either party.
Using the mart average for that week (although it was more likely than not significantly lower than the previous week’s prices) was probably a fair guide to price these sheep. Added to that if as you say you bought for example for arguments sake his R grade hoggs and paid a mart average price for a mixture of some better grades then this was more than fair. In the future how would you price this gentleman’s sheep taking out the advance of being able to use the live auctions for a guide to help you both?
Northeastfarmer
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- Location
- Cleveland
So at first he didn’t want to go to the mart because he was gravely concerned for his health and well being...then it was because he didn’t want to get his pants pulled down by an English butcherSorry missed your post, was a busy day yesterday.This particular farmer was a hill farmer on high ground, he didn't want to go to the mart because the traditional English buyers would have had his pants down in the mart. His hoggs weren't fancy enough for the white English butchers. You know the usual snobbery, some had horns
But do you know what, because the ethnic butchers need that grade of hill lamb, we paid him a fair price. We paid him the equivalent to the mart average for all hoggs sold on the same day which included Beltex, Suffolk and texels (plus he saved nearly £1000 in commission). We saved the same on haulage so everyone was happy.
I know farmers dealing with abattoirs and being happy with the outcome, goes against forum rules on here. This will now give an open invitation to the usual suspects to gang up, so I apologise for the happy ending and for hurting anyones feelings
Maybe this farmer used to be indecisive but now he’s not so sure
anyway at least you paid him a fair price...that will of been a great help to both his health and his arse
A fair price is all any of us want
- Location
- Mendips Somerset
one of the biggest issues in the industry is the cloak of secrecy that goes on beyond the market . i can only think its to control the price , There is no information on whats required on a weekly let alone monthly basis , if we as farmers knew there was a demand we can get the hoppers in and produce whats required in a few weeks time , or take them out and even out supply Better lambs for you and known cost for us , . Main reason farmers were unhappy last week was getting to mart and no trade they just threw us under the bus , we are well aware of the crisis and it would affect us , , Just issue a statement on what sort of numbers are required as a processing industry (through ADHB if necessary) , then we could stay at home if you dont need lamb or beef , Forward Pricing everything on our behalf is either retrospective , a good guess or blind luck, They (supermarkets) would be buying NZ 8 or 10 weeks previous, so they must know what they are going to put on shelves and pricing well in advance, FFS pass some of that down the chain . we might not like it but gives us a heads up .
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livestock 1
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Because this is a public forum it maybe worth me giving the reason for what I call difficult honest and frank discussion rather than ‘bitching’ as you like to put it.
Some of us on here are producers of beef and lamb. We are passionate and hard working and do not make a fortune out of what we do considering the amount of time and effort we put in. At the moment we are seeing empty shelves in supermarkets, high prices in supermarkets, massively reduced farmgate prices for all sheep, massively reduced demand for all sheep, declining demand for beef, declining farmgate beef prices, we are hearing that supermarkets are doing everything they can to feed the nation all the while they are importing NZ lamb and importing Polish beef.
When shelves become empty we as producers get blamed for the shortages by the supermarkets.
We demand answers.
Hope this helps.
- Location
- South Molton
What a novel idea, supplying what the market wants!
Do the direct suppliers get that information? We want x lambs for November, they you book in what you can supply and get a fixed price?
- Location
- N.Lincs
- Location
- Mendips Somerset
its really sad as a primary producer , i have to go to places like this to get some idea of whats going on
https://www.globalmeatnews.com/Article/2020/03/31/Carcase-balance-issue-to-come-for-producers
Long term its actually looking quite good , an article in that jornal say that some outlets that supply the restaurant trade are diversifying into meat boxes / and non essential boxes for the consumer , which can only have a good effect on competition going forward and remove some of that supermarket control thats there at present
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So at first he didn’t want to go to the mart because he was gravely concerned for his health and well being...then it was because he didn’t want to get his pants pulled down by an English butcher
Maybe this farmer used to be indecisive but now he’s not so sure
anyway at least you paid him a fair price...that will of been a great help to both his health and his arse
A fair price is all any of us want
We do deal with more then one farmer, it's a big world out there when you travel past the farm gates and actually come off the farming forum and have a look around.
lloyd
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- Location
- Herefordshire
We do deal with more then one farmer, it's a big world out there when you travel past the farm gates and actually come off the farming forum and have a look around.
Anyway looks like you wont be buying anytime soon.
Average on Eblex yesterday was better in the main marts
so perhaps time for you to adjust your calculator for when your
legal advice allows.
Edit - Or perhaps change your solicitor.
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lloyd
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- Location
- Herefordshire
Hereford doesnt sell that many fat Hoggs in a usual week ,its a big store market .
fieldsofgold
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If after what I’ve seen on social media about Polish beef being imported is true anyone that still supplies ABP from here on in needs their heads looking at!!!
- Location
- Durham, UK
Larry will be chuckling into his horlicks. The barsteward
I think without a mart guide price we would have to agree a price before the lambs left the farmers yard and work to a happy mid point for both parties.
I always tell farmers to sell half alive through the marts and half dead and work out annually which lambs did best. Instead of listening to the rumour mill on here.
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