How covid19 actually kills in-depth surgeons point of view

FarmerD89 · Apr 2, 2020

Found this video from a general surgeon in the states who has a video explaining a non media frenzied description of why if you have any ailment your in hot water. Find that taking the word of government scientists are abit hard to believe with the constant too and fro of how they will react. More so could help you if your in a position with a loved one on what the next step is; knowing what this is without being put into confusion with medical jargon. I’ve a mother who’s in the very at risk category there’s too many what ifs at present?

farmerclare · Apr 2, 2020

@gone up the hill

Farm buy · Apr 3, 2020

FarmerD89 said:
Found this video from a general surgeon in the states who has a video explaining a non media frenzied description of why if you have any ailment your in hot water. Find that taking the word of government scientists are abit hard to believe with the constant too and fro of how they will react.

Thank you FarmerD89.. send it to borris quickly.

Danllan · Apr 3, 2020

FarmerD89 said:
Found this video from a general surgeon in the states who has a video explaining a non media frenzied description of why if you have any ailment your in hot water. Find that taking the word of government scientists are abit hard to believe with the constant too and fro of how they will react. More so could help you if your in a position with a loved one on what the next step is; knowing what this is without being put into confusion with medical jargon. I’ve a mother who’s in the very at risk category there’s too many what ifs at present?

I passed on that link last night to a cousin who's a GP. Heard back from her this morning, she thinks it should go viral over here too, that it's 'simply and brutally and accurately put' and should even sink in to the heads of idiots that haven't got the message so far.

I hope so, I've passed it on to others and hopefully they'll do the same.

SilliamWhale · Apr 3, 2020

Danllan said:
I passed on that link last night to a cousin who's a GP. Heard back from her this morning, she thinks it should go viral over here too, that it's 'simply and brutally and accurately put' and should even sink in to the heads of idiots that haven't got the message so far.

I hope so, I've passed it on to others and hopefully they'll do the same.

Great video.

Id say a huge amount of people have got the message now wouldn't you? 95% id have thought. Keeping away from peoples airspace is the key

honeyend · Apr 3, 2020

If you are in to stats, this shows the progress of the disease, tested at various stages.
The viral shedding swabs is of the most importance in every day life, its in a seperate table. Treat everyone as if they have it however well they may feel.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30200-0/fulltext#seccestitle120

Dr. Alkathene · Apr 3, 2020

farmerclare said:
@gone up the hill

Don’t be daft it’s only the flu

Danllan · Apr 3, 2020

SilliamWhale said:
Great video.

Keeping away from peoples airspace is the key

Well, you'd think so, and certainly hope so; but it's the 5% that'll waste the efforts of the rest of us...

gone up the hill · Apr 3, 2020

farmerclare said:
@gone up the hill

Another so called expert that actually knows very little.

What I would like to know is how many people the last three days died of the actual virus? and not with things like heart attacks/ long term ill health etc etc but which deaths were put down to the virus as well.

Lofty1984 · Apr 3, 2020

gone up the hill said:
Another so called expert that actually knows very little.

What I would like to know is how many people the last three days died of the actual virus? and not with things like heart attacks/ long term ill health etc etc but which deaths were put down to the virus as well.

I’ve been asking the same question how many people actually dying with covid rather than from it ?
before anyone starts on at me I’m in no way saying it’s not serious and like the flu for example

Breakthru · Apr 3, 2020

Back in 2000 flu virus was bad, pictures of refrigerated lorries outside hospitals as morgues were full. Predominantly as can be seen from Bojo and cabinet members not anything like as bad except in a few cases but more virulent in its ability to spread. 85% of men when they die have prostate cancer of some type but in the vast majority of cases that's not what killed them. Same as C19.

Farm buy · Apr 3, 2020

Dr. Alkathene said:
Don’t be daft it’s only the flu

Covid 19 was only ticking over until now. As far as I can see it has reved up now ready for take off

Spartacus · Apr 3, 2020

Found this on the BBC website, found it an interesting read, specially the 18yr old that died, he actually died due to other issues but because he was tested and had covid-19 his death was added to the figures. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51979654

Lofty1984 · Apr 3, 2020

Spartacus said:
Found this on the BBC website, found it an interesting read, specially the 18yr old that died, he actually died due to other issues but because he was tested and had covid-19 his death was added to the figures. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51979654

That’s my point

le bon paysan · Apr 3, 2020

Lofty1984 said:
I’ve been asking the same question how many people actually dying with covid rather than from it ?
before anyone starts on at me I’m in no way saying it’s not serious and like the flu for example

Me too.
Eddie Large had heart failure and was already in a bad way, 76 and very overweight with years spent in smoky clubs. But died of corvid 19 according to the BBC.
I don't wish in anyway to make out that the situation isn't serious but come on.

FarmerD89 · Apr 3, 2020

I think it just highlights that the virus affects how your body producers ace inhibitors and if you have an underlying issue it will be more of a risk to yourself

Johnnyboxer · Apr 3, 2020

Lofty1984 said:
I’ve been asking the same question how many people actually dying with covid rather than from it ?
before anyone starts on at me I’m in no way saying it’s not serious and like the flu for example

School friend of mine has just come through it for last 7 days

She's 54, very fit and healthy

Fever, cough, sore throat and loss of taste & smell, aches and muscle spasms

Gone through her immediate family - husband , sons etc at a rate knots

Another friend 41, fit and healthy got it and she has had 3 bouts of it over the last 4 weeks, mild first and then taken to hospital and given antibiotics and now back worse in last few days - on all 4's on kitchen floor, panting like a dog and gasping for breath

Cv19 is horrendous

Mr Mackay · Apr 3, 2020

I posted this in the Italy thread yesterday .
To be fair it makes you feel bad listening too it ,but I think most of us knew the gist of it already !!

Good for those that dont know it though !

Danllan · Apr 3, 2020

gone up the hill said:
Another so called expert that actually knows very little.

What I would like to know is how many people the last three days died of the actual virus? and not with things like heart attacks/ long term ill health etc etc but which deaths were put down to the virus as well.

If ever anything you have posted has made it plainly clear what a total f^cking idiot you are, this is it.

Statistically a few people will die of x, y or z while carrying the virus, but not due to it, yes they would have died anyway. Brilliant, well done. The point that the whole medical world is making is that a huge number who could normally expect years more life will not have a hope of it if they contract this disease. What don't you get, how can you possibly be so utterly stupid as not to be able to grasp this - or is it that you do, but just want to stir-up trouble and concern...?

Check out the accreditations this fellow who 'knows very little' has, I have and they are all bona fide. He is a well respected doctor with an extensive and successful practice, and you are a prat with what, a chemistry GCSE and a weak will? And yet you reckon that you have the better understanding of microbiology, human physiology and epidemiology.

You are a fool, a dangerous rumour monger and a moral coward. Someone on here will know you and eventually be disgusted at what you write and are trying to do on the internet. I wonder how long it will be until they get sufficiently sick of your actions to name and, justly, shame you.

Mr Mackay · Apr 3, 2020

Danllan said:
If ever anything you have posted has made it plainly clear what a total f^cking idiot you are, this is it.

Statistically a few people will die of x, y or z while carrying the virus, but not due to it, yes they would have died anyway. Brilliant, well done. The point that the whole medical world is making is that a huge number who could normally expect years more life will not have a hope of it if they contract this disease. What don't you get, how can you possibly be so utterly stupid as not to be able to grasp this - or is it that you do, but just want to stir-up trouble and concern...?

Check out the accreditations this fellow who 'knows very little' has, I have and they are all bona fide. He is a well respected doctor with an extensive and successful practice, and you are a prat with what, a chemistry GCSE and a weak will? And yet you reckon that you have the better understanding of microbiology, human physiology and epidemiology.

You are a fool, a dangerous rumour monger and a moral coward. Someone on here will know you and eventually be disgusted at what you write and are trying to do on the internet. I wonder how long it will be until they get sufficiently sick of your actions to name and, justly, shame you.

Its amazing how you can still hear people with their heads in the sand

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