Winter wheat yields

bankrupt · May 10, 2020

Muddyboots said:
the worst here was 1976

Yes, the drought was worse than in 1975 but because the soil conditions were so much better the previous autumn, 1976 WW, WB, WO yields were much better here than in 1975.

We still managed less than 1t/acre of SO.

As to fungicides, it was the year of the first triazole.

yellow belly · May 10, 2020

bankrupt said:
Some very good points - knowing your land; minimizing long-term risk; opportunistic strategies.

Also needs tax averaging, currently available, and cash-flow resilience, either from deep pockets or understanding bankers, each of which now seems in rather short supply hereabouts.

(Our heaviest is 800 ft and 15" higher rainfall than 5 miles away at 400 ft freer draining).

Growth development And timeing here are comparable with crops 150 miles further north vale of york but heavier soil
this is an advantage in hot dry years which are fewer than they we 30 years ago

Muddyboots · May 10, 2020

Lincsman said:
44 years on, and whats todays barley price?.. looking like my whole farming career will be with the same produce prices.

I am afraid your right and the sad reality we find ourselves in!

Barleymow · May 11, 2020

Brisel said:
Just water or is there something else in it

99%water has washed fertiliser in well

robs1 · May 11, 2020

bankrupt said:
The only worse one I can recall is 1974/75, when we had 302mm rain in September, messing up the autumn, snow all through March, April, and just 6mm rain in June, wrecking spring crops sown in May.

Averaged 1.3t /acre from all what we planted and 0.8t /acre from the standing crops purchased.

Are you sure that was 75 not 76, the big drought year, started raining here august bank holiday and we had the cows in day and night by 15th Oct

bankrupt · May 11, 2020

robs1 said:
Are you sure that was 75

Yes - in spite of slightly less rain 1976 was much better for crops here because it was so dry in the autumn of 1975.

And in the same way that the wet autumn of 1974 messed up 1975's yields, the autumn of 1976 messed up 1977.

Wombat · May 11, 2020

Seen someone irrigating wheat this morning, that’s not a sight u often see round here

robs1 · May 11, 2020

bankrupt said:
Yes - in spite of slightly less rain 1976 was much better for crops here because it was so dry in the autumn of 1975.

And in the same way that the wet autumn of 1974 messed up 1975's yields, the autumn of 1976 messed up 1977.

76 was worse here because as you say 75 was dry and right through the winter too.
I used to keep a diary in those days and remember writing that it was the first winter I left school so worked every day instead of evening and wknds and it rained every day, a bit like last winter, wevused a rotaspreader in those days to take sh!t out two or three times a week, my we made a mess

yellow belly · May 11, 2020

robs1 said:
76 was worse here because as you say 75 was dry and right through the winter too.
I used to keep a diary in those days and remember writing that it was the first winter I left school so worked every day instead of evening and wknds and it rained every day, a bit like last winter, wevused a rotaspreader in those days to take sh!t out two or three times a week, my we made a mess

Wheat Drilling was usually later like many do now
September drilling helps with summer drought

D14 · May 11, 2020

ajd132 said:
I will take 6t/ha of spring milling wheat over 7.5t of mauled in winter feed + soil damage. I think the spring wheat is a better option seeing some of the wheelings and compaction people have created around here mauling in late.

You won’t when your spring wheat is full or ergot to clean.

ajd132 · May 11, 2020

D14 said:
You won’t when your spring wheat is full or ergot to clean.

Store everything in Camgrain so not a big issue, 3 colour sorters. Same for spring barley.

robs1 · May 11, 2020

yellow belly said:
Wheat Drilling was usually later like many do now
September drilling helps with summer drought

We were all dairy then I didnt start growing corn until I took over the farm in 86, my old man had a melt down said I would never grow corn on our land, at times last winter he was almost right, ?

Spanish · May 11, 2020

Today I am going to put some photos of how wheat is in Castilla (Spain). It is a crop with 2 varieties (70% RGT Somontano and 30% Nemo) that are not planted in the UK. It has 140 units of N and a fungicide treatment with 0.5 Elatus Era and 0.5 chlorthalonil applied on April 24. With the abundant rains there is a lot of disease per foliar, some have tried twice depending on the variety. That farm I calculate 5 tons / ha, the rest about 3.8 t / ha on average. Next year I will apply manganese and magnesium as I have read to you, if I am doing well you are invited to good ham

Brisel · May 11, 2020

Spanish said:
Today I am going to put some photos of how wheat is in Castilla (Spain). It is a crop with 2 varieties (70% RGT Somontano and 30% Nemo) that are not planted in the UK. It has 140 units of N and a fungicide treatment with 0.5 Elatus Era and 0.5 chlorthalonil applied on April 24. With the abundant rains there is a lot of disease per foliar, some have tried twice depending on the variety. That farm I calculate 5 tons / ha, the rest about 3.8 t / ha on average. Next year I will apply manganese and magnesium as I have read to you, if I am doing well you are invited to good hamView attachment 877721

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What foliage diseases do you get there please?

glasshouse · May 11, 2020

Spanish said:
Today I am going to put some photos of how wheat is in Castilla (Spain). It is a crop with 2 varieties (70% RGT Somontano and 30% Nemo) that are not planted in the UK. It has 140 units of N and a fungicide treatment with 0.5 Elatus Era and 0.5 chlorthalonil applied on April 24. With the abundant rains there is a lot of disease per foliar, some have tried twice depending on the variety. That farm I calculate 5 tons / ha, the rest about 3.8 t / ha on average. Next year I will apply manganese and magnesium as I have read to you, if I am doing well you are invited to good hamView attachment 877721 View attachment 877722 View attachment 877723 View attachment 877724

What is that land worth to buy or rent

Flat 10 · May 11, 2020

Spanish said:
Today I am going to put some photos of how wheat is in Castilla (Spain). It is a crop with 2 varieties (70% RGT Somontano and 30% Nemo) that are not planted in the UK. It has 140 units of N and a fungicide treatment with 0.5 Elatus Era and 0.5 chlorthalonil applied on April 24. With the abundant rains there is a lot of disease per foliar, some have tried twice depending on the variety. That farm I calculate 5 tons / ha, the rest about 3.8 t / ha on average. Next year I will apply manganese and magnesium as I have read to you, if I am doing well you are invited to good hamView attachment 877721 View attachment 877722 View attachment 877723 View attachment 877724

Too late for manganese needs to be on before stem extension. Mag will be good now. Put mang on in autumn and early spring.

Ladybird · May 11, 2020

Graham
drilled 1st November direct drilled JD 750

Spanish · May 11, 2020

Here until about 10 years ago fungicide was never used. IF there was disease we were not aware. Now what is more is septoria and rust marilla. There is little brown rust and powdery mildew. Some year some bad foot. We need a lot to learn from Spanish farmers, that's why I thank them for their teachings.

Spanish · May 11, 2020

As for the price of land, with the subject of European PAC subsidies and the need to justify payment rights (I suppose that up to now the same) has risen to impossible levels, both purchase and rent. A normal hecarea that produces about 4-.4500 kilos of wheat is paid 8-10,000 euros and in rent as the price of the collection rights of each farmer are different, impossible things are being paid. This is a silly bubble that when it explodes is going to take many illusions ahead. On rent above 150 €/ ha

Spanish · May 11, 2020

I think this from the Google translator sometimes writes the opposite of what I mean. I hope you understand me. I am very happy to read them because they are educated and know well what they write. The same I have to go a few days to help them on the farm in exchange for learning English. I am one of the first to study English at school, because before, when I was studying it was fashionable to learn French. And now with English and Spanish (which is the second most geographically extended language after English) you can go all over the world

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100% I’ve had enough of farming!

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