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Dead Rabbits

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There’s this marvellous thing called artificial insemination. It’s where you can use the best bulls in the world to use on your cows and the little buggers are kept in a Flask so they don’t try and kill you and you can have as many different bulls as you like.
But providing you buy well bred bulls you can use the same genetics, and its a job you don't have too think about, because you know a bull unlike a lot of staff won't cut corners he'll do his best to get them incalf, I personally can't put a high enough price on not having to think or worry about fertility. No one should ever hit a bull, worst thing you can do, you just need a good sensible dog and you'll never have a problem. (or that's what I've found)
 

dinderleat

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Wells
But providing you buy well bred bulls you can use the same genetics, and its a job you don't have too think about, because you know a bull unlike a lot of staff won't cut corners he'll do his best to get them incalf, I personally can't put a high enough price on not having to think or worry about fertility. No one should ever hit a bull, worst thing you can do, you just need a good sensible dog and you'll never have a problem. (or that's what I've found)
Buying well breed bulls and the best bulls are slightly different. a lot of people tend to say ‘I’ve just bought a new bull he just Didn’t quite make it to the Ai stud so he must be good?!’ But each to their own plus I’m using all sexed so I’m yet to find a bull that throws just heifers.
 

jimmer

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East Devon
Buying well breed bulls and the best bulls are slightly different. a lot of people tend to say ‘I’ve just bought a new bull he just Didn’t quite make it to the Ai stud so he must be good?!’ But each to their own plus I’m using all sexed so I’m yet to find a bull that throws just heifers.
But we've all had the bull that threw tonnes of bull calves , so where's his opposite?
 

Grazer

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SW Scotland
I used sexed semen 20 years ago, and one of the calves born was a bull. Cos I'd used it on a good cow and it was a good sire, I kept him as a stock bull. He had 65% heifers over 3 years of working. Was probably 80 or 100 calves a year.

Unfortunately the sires proof for a poor scc grew and grew - Critchel Principal, and so all his daughters had terrible scc! ?
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
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somerset
Buying well breed bulls and the best bulls are slightly different. a lot of people tend to say ‘I’ve just bought a new bull he just Didn’t quite make it to the Ai stud so he must be good?!’ But each to their own plus I’m using all sexed so I’m yet to find a bull that throws just heifers.
old AI chap told us the best bulls in the world, go as bobby calves, that was years ago, genomics are here now, but then it was matching a good cow, to a bull, that one thought would turn out right, and some did, others didn't. Old man bought a well bred hol bull, well bred, ever so quiet, lovely to handle, he broke his own rule, 1 yr hfrs, 1 year cows and out, we used him over a lot of hfrs and cows, ended up with about 80 hfrs, none of which beat 4000 litres. Yet very well bred, plenty of milk behind him, lesson learnt.
The reverse side, with more grazing type cows, do you actually want a pli 700 plus bull ? Because if you use one of them, on your 6000 litre grazing type cow, it isn't going to work out that well.
 

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