Bison to be reintroduced to Kent woodland

ImLost

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The cattle are allowed to live and die as they please without any interference.
During FMD the estate were so worried that they started a nucleus herd somewhere secret in the wilds of Scotland
Rumour has it that the herd is on one of the islands up there, I may be wrong though.
 

egbert

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How does it impact your culture? Surely you are free to manage your land as you see fit so long as it's within the law? Can't they do the same or do you have a problem with that? Bison, not so terribly different to your average bovine surely?

In case you've missed it, the rewilding lobby have slowly been pushing their tentacles into both Westminster, and several mainland euro/Scandinavian countries parliaments.
As of now, there are wolves roaming most EU countries,
the German sheep farmers are being asked to keep their flocks within high electric fences (shoot a wolf, go to jail),
There's bears coming back into the alps, with one currently attacking people in the South Tyrol.
Huge tracts of historic mountain grazing -really historic, with centuries of reference and traditions- in Norway have now been abandoned, due to protected predators.
(Really really really, a whole grazing culture, very very similar to our fell and hill flocks, gone....lost in 2 decades).
The Spanish are facing the same.

.......and they want to do the same here.

This bison project is fine in it's own right, apart from issues being discussed above.
But it is associated with people who're attacking me and mine. And I won't go without a fight I'm afraid.
 

egbert

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Rumour has it that the herd is on one of the islands up there, I may be wrong though.

I thought it was on a mainland estate.
Could be your thinking of the feral cows on Swona?... and by golly they're effing beautiful.
Get me a bull calf someone
 

topground

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North Somerset.
How does it impact your culture? Surely you are free to manage your land as you see fit so long as it's within the law? Can't they do the same or do you have a problem with that? Bison, not so terribly different to your average bovine surely?
The Dangerous Wild Animals Act 1976 requires those keeping Bison to hold a licence. A tad more dangerous than domestic cattle. They could have achieved the same effect using Longhorn cattle for forestry management as I understand happens in Epping Forest. They will need a bit more than a few gates and some baler twine for their Tb testing handling system.
 
It needs a little sideways thinking.
These people are not totally stupid.
Come up with such a daft scheme, And get mega kudos for shutting off your estate to every Tom, Dick and harry who wants to use their right to roam.
I am seriously thinking about making my Garden a reserve for some seriously endangered species, not sure what yet, any good suggestions!.

What endangered species?

Humans with common sense.
 

Blaithin

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I've been thinking...

do they get TB? (almost certainly)

So, in 10 years when some have been 'accidentally' released in a heavily wooded area elsewhere, or been let out by unknown extremists, picked up TB, and then start meeting someones cattle.....
The liability matter needs dealing with right now, before it goes a step further.

It's already pretty apparent which moron was instrumental in releasing the beavers locally, and I would very dearly love to see him held to account when they dig under/drop a tree upon/whatever they might do to........ something expensive.
(So far, they're being sheltered by a large estate sympathetic, and everyone is loved up about it.... but they will surely spread where they're unwanted)
We need to get on this now.

Who is liable when a bison strays onto the main road, and someone dies in the ensuing RTA?
Absolutely they can and will.

The wild herds here have TB. Think there’s rules for how close cattle can be grazed to the parks and those within a certain distance have to do regular testing. Same as those around infected deer and elk populations.
 

bluebell

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crazy, crazy,? waste of what is public money? common sense gos the more so called educated you are ? beavers, sea eagles, otters what next? mean while the relentless building on of thousands of acres of farmland goes on year after year? But this has no impact on the environment so the so called experts? build a countrypark for the people to roam make a mess walk their dogs?
 

GeorgeC1

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GeorgeC1

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Better go look at what's going under concrete before you level any criticism about how I farm...which is what the rewilder scum are doing.

There are multiple issues with the environment, from multiple sectors ranging from copy-paste housing estates in the middle of nowhere to environment destruction, calling me scum because I support controlled environmental reconstruction isn't helpful imo.
 

egbert

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There are multiple issues with the environment, from multiple sectors ranging from copy-paste housing estates in the middle of nowhere to environment destruction, calling me scum because I support controlled environmental reconstruction isn't helpful imo.

If you support Monbiots vision, where I'm to be removed from my cultural employment and home....that's exactly what I think of you.

I have issues about people trying to impose their twisted theories on others...it was tried extensively 80-90 years ago by an Austrian and some Germans.
We've got names for people who act like that.

Just so we're clear.
 

GeorgeC1

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Maybe that's because there is more chance of people coming into contact with cattle than bison.
I know common sense isn't a strong point for you rewilders, but at least try and make an effort.

Lol I like how you like to throw tags on people. Somehow supporting controlled conservation is bad
 

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