Harvest/Yields 2020

Ormond

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started in the suningdale hybrid on Tuesday. Really mixed across the field...would just be guessing yield.... Around the 2.5t/acre....maybe a bit over. Straw wasn't over ripe, grain was dry....combine broke a walker in half towards the end of the field so started lifting 150acre of selected cut at 6pm....finished at 4am the next day.
 

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
Think I need to become a FW contributor,all their barley seems to be at least 7.4t/ha.That seems to be the absolute top on here,.5.5-6 or less is more typical,we are all being too honest!
 

farenheit

Member
Location
Midlands
Think I need to become a FW contributor,all their barley seems to be at least 7.4t/ha.That seems to be the absolute top on here,.5.5-6 or less is more typical,we are all being too honest!
I think there's a strong correlation between the types of people who may inflate their yields and the type of people who feel the need to phone their contact at the farmers weekly the moment they finish a field.
 
did you reduce fungicide to the extase relative to anything else ?

It didn't have a teb T0 like the Zyatt that surrounded it with no obvious ill effect whereas Zyatt had a lot of visible YR. T1 was the same as Zyatt - CTL + 0.7l epoxi. T2 again the same low rate of Revystar + CTL + teb. All had 0.5l teb for T3. I did mistime the T2 on the Extase with the flag fully emerged for a while before the T2 went on. Again, didn't see any ill effects from this as septoria pressure wasn't exactly high, but it's possible it might have affected the yield.

Gleam by comparison got 2x SDHIs (although the T1 one was partly to compensate for slightly late timing).

If we plant a decent area of it next year, I would expect to do similar again. No T0, no SDHI at T1, SDHI at T2 and probably a cheap T3. We might have the entire cropped area as 1st wheat next year, so I also see it as giving me a bit of tolerance if I miss timings by a few days.
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
I think there's a strong correlation between the types of people who may inflate their yields and the type of people who feel the need to phone their contact at the farmers weekly the moment they finish a field.
They do call you up. They rang me a few weeks ago wanting details but we hadn’t done enough. I would have been honest but it would make me look like a bad farmer compared to morons like the guy from sheppey.
 

farenheit

Member
Location
Midlands
They do call you up. They rang me a few weeks ago wanting details but we hadn’t done enough. I would have been honest but it would make me look like a bad farmer compared to morons like the guy from sheppey.
High profile contract farmers can just say "I did 10T/ha barley" with no backup, and it is free advertising. By high profile I mean 'people who tweet a lot' - seems they are now are the same names that pop up as AHDB monitor farms, in advertising pamphlets, on the board of the Oxford Farming Conference etc. Either they are desperate for these types of roles, or the people that are trying to fill them have got exceedingly lazy in where they look.

(Spoiler alert: the best farmers are probably not on twitter, nor are they calling - or being called by - the FW when they get great yields. I dare say Tim Lamyman's yields have been broken several times by farmers who would rather just get on with the job and not show their hand...The British wheat yield record is really "the highest self-pronounced wheat yield")
 

bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
did mistime the T2 on the Extase with the flag fully emerged for a while before the T2 went on. Again, didn't see any ill effects from this as septoria pressure wasn't exactly high,
Extase seems to be best ever against septoria tritici


but absolutely useless against septoria nodorum


😧 😧
 
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Extase seems to be best ever against septoria tritici,


but useless against septoria nodorum


😧 😧

That's very interesting. I did see something in it that I thought might be nodorum. It seemed to die from the top down rather than bottom up which was a bit worrying. I know I was late on the T2 so it's possible disease came in then and appeared later on (T3 would have done nothing against any form of septoria). Zyatt T2 was better timed. Extase was on our only bit of properly light land, so that rather confuses the issue.
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
High profile contract farmers can just say "I did 10T/ha barley" with no backup, and it is free advertising. By high profile I mean 'people who tweet a lot' - seems they are now are the same names that pop up as AHDB monitor farms, in advertising pamphlets, on the board of the Oxford Farming Conference etc. Either they are desperate for these types of roles, or the people that are trying to fill them have got exceedingly lazy in where they look.

(Spoiler alert: the best farmers are probably not on twitter, nor are they calling - or being called by - the FW when they get great yields. I dare say Tim Lamyman's yields have been broken several times by farmers who would rather just get on with the job and not show their hand...The British wheat yield record is really "the highest self-pronounced wheat yield")
I think there is quite a small pool of farmers that are approached by the magazines. I get asked fairly regularly to do articles but I try and limit it to one a year. Did one about osr growing low cost risk averse based on margin recently which whenever it gets published will hopefully be abit of an antidote to the usual Spend spend spend mantra. Don’t mind doing the occasional article but some people seem to be in them every week. Must have read about 20 articles about Andrew wards blackgrass rouging!
 

Trying

Member
Extase doing between 6.4t and 6.9t on lightish land over about three fields. Quite a bit worse than I expected and I don't think I had realised the extent which it had died prematurely. Zyatt in the same field doing 1 t/ha more, ranging from 7.2t to 7.9t/ha of the 80ac we've done so far. Heads of Zyatt hanging over more naturally whereas Extase stood upright and looked thin. Hectolitre weights sitting just over the 80 mark for everything, which is a bit odd if the diagnosis of the Extase is correct. As per the above, from a calibrated yield meter.
Done 25 acres of Extase couple of days ago. 81bushel. 11.6 protein only about 2.8 ton to acre.
 

AT Aloss

Member
NFFN Member
High profile contract farmers can just say "I did 10T/ha barley" with no backup, and it is free advertising. By high profile I mean 'people who tweet a lot' - seems they are now are the same names that pop up as AHDB monitor farms, in advertising pamphlets, on the board of the Oxford Farming Conference etc. Either they are desperate for these types of roles, or the people that are trying to fill them have got exceedingly lazy in where they look.

(Spoiler alert: the best farmers are probably not on twitter, nor are they calling - or being called by - the FW when they get great yields. I dare say Tim Lamyman's yields have been broken several times by farmers who would rather just get on with the job and not show their hand...The British wheat yield record is really "the highest self-pronounced wheat yield")
In defence of Tim he is very welcoming, prepared to share information; isn't trying to build a big contract farming business off the back of it, takes genuine pride in what he does (you couldn't make as many passes as he does without having a genuine interest in how far you can push a crop). He loves his farming and tends to keep himself to himself until he's on about seeing how far you can push things.

One of my Dad's sayings is "the ones to watch are those who think it's important to be important" which I think boils down to the difference between pride and ego. The public eye isn't for everyone but it can certainly attract the wrong type
 

farenheit

Member
Location
Midlands
In defence of Tim he is very welcoming, prepared to share information; isn't trying to build a big contract farming business off the back of it, takes genuine pride in what he does (you couldn't make as many passes as he does without having a genuine interest in how far you can push a crop). He loves his farming and tends to keep himself to himself until he's on about seeing how far you can push things.

One of my Dad's sayings is "the ones to watch are those who think it's important to be important" which I think boils down to the difference between pride and ego. The public eye isn't for everyone but it can certainly attract the wrong type
Tim wasn't really the one I was joshing about, he's not really got a lot to prove and I know its been independently verified. But my post could have been better worded! But at some point, he had to tell someone "my yields are the best" otherwise who would have found out?
 

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