Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Moved them 2 days earlier so I’m guessing that’s what had triggered it ... had a similar scenario a few years ago with cocci lost about 30 in 2 days ... are those tubby buckets any good as apposed too dosing with Vecoxan? I worry about the ewes chewing on them like skittles but Vecoxan is a bloody expensive do
The ewes do eat the buckets but not as fast as I thought they would. Got half a tonne a month ago they do work too. If they have it bad you will maybe need to dose though
 

JSmith

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Livestock Farmer
Moved them 2 days earlier so I’m guessing that’s what had triggered it ... had a similar scenario a few years ago with cocci lost about 30 in 2 days ... are those tubby buckets any good as apposed too dosing with Vecoxan? I worry about the ewes chewing on them like skittles but Vecoxan is a bloody expensive do
We tried the buckets this year and didn’t have any problems with them, you need to make it so the ewes can’t get them or they will be gone sharpish!! I put them in upside down hay rack pinned to the floor or couple upside down gates triangle against the fence, lambs get in fine, ewes can’t!
 

Optimus

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Livestock Farmer
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North of Perth
Doesn't do pasturella though & we have big issues with that here..... I took my ewes off hepto 3 yrs back & did covexin instead because it was cheaper & didn't think ewes were prone to pasturella........ Big mistake. 8 months later when I guess the hepto cover went out their system we were always picking up a dead ewe...... So fricking frustrating so last summer I got them back on the heptavac system with the 2 injections & seems to be back to normal now......
God dam temperamental sheep.......!!!!!!!
Was speaking to the vet about pasturella as we lost a fair few hoggs last year to it.we vaccinate with heptavac.his words were.he was involved with a lot of trials an testing with the vaccine's.an he said that there is no real evidence to say they even work.which I might agree with.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
We tried the buckets this year and didn’t have any problems with them, you need to make it so the ewes can’t get them or they will be gone sharpish!! I put them in upside down hay rack pinned to the floor or couple upside down gates triangle against the fence, lambs get in fine, ewes can’t!


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sounds like my orf tub setup
 

cattleman123

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devon
All the talk of a no deal ,truth is no one really knows how it will pan out ,today on politics south west Eustice said they were looking at a support system for sheep,the way i see this is paying a payment on the ewes,now moving on Store Lambs are a good trade supported the the finished price that i totally get for lambs that will be killed pre the new year , but in my eyes the longer term lambs where the price has been dragged up by the above look very dangerous in the currant polictical enviroment ...not trying to talk the trade down ..everyone to their own .....yes some will say lamb will be short etc...heard it all before but no one really knows how its going to pan out...whats everyones honest view here.
 
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All the talk of a no deal ,truth is no one really knows how it will pan out ,today on politics south west Eustice said they were looking at a support system for sheep,the way i see this is paying a payment on the ewes,now moving on Store Lambs are a good trade supported the the finished price that i totally get for lambs that will be killed pre the new year , but in my eyes the longer term lambs where the price has been dragged up by the above look very dangerous in the currant polictical enviroment ...not trying to talk the trade down ..everyone to their own .....yes some will say lamb will be short etc...heard it all before but no one really knows how its going to pan out...whats everyones honest view here
Lambs may well be short in the spring but a struggling export trade if no trade deal must surely keep a lid on it?
 

Ceri

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Was speaking to the vet about pasturella as we lost a fair few hoggs last year to it.we vaccinate with heptavac.his words were.he was involved with a lot of trials an testing with the vaccine's.an he said that there is no real evidence to say they even work.which I might agree with.
Mm very interesting....... I do wonder. We do our lambs twice & we don't
Lambs may well be short in the spring but a struggling export trade if no trade deal must surely keep a lid on it?
Honestly............ I think we're at the start of a golden age for all types of farming.

I been thinking about it alot lately, and I really think good times are here to stay. Climate change will f**k us in the end but in the near future (our life time) it will be the making of us. Look at the droughts & fires in the southern hemisphere the floods & unpredictable weather in the northern hemisphere etc. The Issue of a piece of paper that is a trade deal is absolutely insignificant compared to the might of the huge machine that is the hunger of the human race. We are selfish greedy creatures and will get our food & there is plenty of mouths to make sure this continues to be the case. Veganisum is merely a fad by a v v v v v v small minority & will blend into insignificance & hunger will overcome any single think all the time....
#goldenageishere
 

Top Tip.

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highland
Honestly............ I think we're at the start of a golden age for all types of farming. (Quote.)

You are the second person I have heard saying that this week. I really hope you are right.
 
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Is spending a day doing a course on codd with vet students good enough for you? Or taking part in codd research trials with the university of Liverpool? Or getting rid of it from the flock twice?

How about you, have you been to school? 😜
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So you are another one that has confessed on here to know everything. A dangerous place for your mind to be. I can’t imagine how anyone can get into that train of thought. As far as I’m concerned every day is another day to learn and I will never get to the bottom of all of the best answers I will run out of time long before that.
You must obviously think that you want a pat on the back for shifting it on from your flock twice.
You also must think that I on the other hand have never achieved this over the many years of dealing with CODD
You also assume that I don’t have multiple flocks to deal with.
I’m not knocking your day course one bit nor do I pretend to know more about this subject than you do. However I have to say that I don’t believe your day course can replace the years of gathering vet advice and advice from many others in the industry and actually dealing with it.
When you learn about CODD you will find out that the biggest issue is transmission of the disease. Formalin does stop the transmission from sheep to sheep which is the main problem. It’s much easier to deal with a small number of sheep showing symptoms of it than to be treating a high percentage of very lame sheep.
What did your course tell you?
 

Ceri

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Mm very interesting....... I do wonder. We do our lambs twice & we don't

Honestly............ I think we're at the start of a golden age for all types of farming.

I been thinking about it alot lately, and I really think good times are here to stay. Climate change will f**k us in the end but in the near future (our life time) it will be the making of us. Look at the droughts & fires in the southern hemisphere the floods & unpredictable weather in the northern hemisphere etc. The Issue of a piece of paper that is a trade deal is absolutely insignificant compared to the might of the huge machine that is the hunger of the human race. We are selfish greedy creatures and will get our food & there is plenty of mouths to make sure this continues to be the case. Veganisum is merely a fad by a v v v v v v small minority & will blend into insignificance & hunger will overcome any single think all the time....
#goldenageishere
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Honestly............ I think we're at the start of a golden age for all types of farming. (Quote.)

You are the second person I have heard saying that this week. I really hope you are right.
I thought the farming apocalypse was coming before covid but I now can see the light............. Finally.
 

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon
This last 2 months is the golden age for sheep, if my old dad, who's been dead 10 years had seen these price he wouldn't believe it after years of selling lmbs at 35£for years and years.

My late father was selling lambs for £100 apiece ... in 1974.

Top price for our equivalent sold most recently was £104 and some pennies apiece.

Sobering stuff, particularly when the benchmarking of COP is factored in.
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
So you are another one that has confessed on here to know everything. A dangerous place for your mind to be. I can’t imagine how anyone can get into that train of thought. As far as I’m concerned every day is another day to learn and I will never get to the bottom of all of the best answers I will run out of time long before that.
You must obviously think that you want a pat on the back for shifting it on from your flock twice.
You also must think that I on the other hand have never achieved this over the many years of dealing with CODD
You also assume that I don’t have multiple flocks to deal with.
I’m not knocking your day course one bit nor do I pretend to know more about this subject than you do. However I have to say that I don’t believe your day course can replace the years of gathering vet advice and advice from many others in the industry and actually dealing with it.
When you learn about CODD you will find out that the biggest issue is transmission of the disease. Formalin does stop the transmission from sheep to sheep which is the main problem. It’s much easier to deal with a small number of sheep showing symptoms of it than to be treating a high percentage of very lame sheep.
What did your course tell you?
Where does @ford4000 say he knows it all, or isn't still learning?
What about you?
You were the one who told him to go back to school so he rose to your challenge 😆
And the Liverpool trial work was a bit more than just his day course - working with the leading vet on the subject currently.

You make a valid point about formalin helping to stop transmission, but he called you out on your simplistic assertion that codd is sorted with double strength formalin.
 
Where does @ford4000 say he knows it all, or isn't still learning?
What about you?
You were the one who told him to go back to school so he rose to your challenge 😆
And the Liverpool trial work was a bit more than just his day course - working with the leading vet on the subject currently.

You make a valid point about formalin helping to stop transmission, but he called you out on your simplistic assertion that codd is sorted with double strength formalin.
He hasn’t given me one single bit of information on anything remotely associated with CODD which could be described as being helpful.
My post initially was a simple solution to a big problem to footbath sheep with formalin to stop the transmission of CODD and was aimed to provide helpful information to someone
In return I’ve been hounded down as someone who hasn’t a clue because I haven’t got a bit of paper to wave around
Admittedly I haven’t
Then he decides I’m wrong but has no idea what to do about it himself
 
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