Donald Trump - views

Lowland1

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Mixed Farmer
I think Donald Trump is a very offensive rude and obnoxious person the antithesis of Obama who all Trump supporters hate. I wonder if Obama rather than Hilary Clinton had been able to run against Trump what would have happened basically the 2016 election was rubbish v rubbish and even though Hilary got more votes Trump won the electoral college thing so he became President something lots on here seem to forget when whining about the 75 million votes he got etc. Basically it’s all down to upbringing and Trump was brought up very badly his parents should have instilled a bit of discipline in him early on. If they had of done all this would have been avoided.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
Basically it’s all down to upbringing and Trump was brought up very badly his parents should have instilled a bit of discipline in him early on. If they had of done all this would have been avoided.

It's a bit difficult when your grandfather and father were both crooks and swindlers, but probably neither as bad as Donald.
 
I've known of Trump for years, certainly long before he was involved in politics. The bloke was a moron back then. He got rich at other people's expense, had multiple construction works done for his company, then never paid them and just got lawyered up. It's well documented and public knowledge long before he took office. This isn't myth.

He also lied about his wealth, any honest man could have just gave up his tax records as is normal for taking public office but no.


I reckon Bloomberg might have a run for office next time around. Kamala Harris running would be interesting though.
 
Europe owes its security during the cold war to the us and the uk, who else was stopping the communists walking into europe, the french or Italians? Of course you old boys would have stated neutral, again, the EU need to remember that little fact, you are a great one for bringing up history and the evils of the british empire perhaps a few memories of more modern history of europe need remembering too.
Careful your sounding like a middle aged white entitled male.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Europe owes its security during the cold war to the us and the uk, who else was stopping the communists walking into europe, the french or Italians? Of course you old boys would have stated neutral, again, the EU need to remember that little fact, you are a great one for bringing up history and the evils of the british empire perhaps a few memories of more modern history of europe need remembering too.

France has always held a bigger nuclear deterrent than the UK although smaller than it used to be, is the 3rd largest in the world after the US and Russia.
 
The short term plan was to get Biden elected by any means possible.

The Vice President, with her very left wing views, has been categorically kept under wraps.

Once Biden is inaugurated, the intention is that he will soon relapse, and the Vice President will be sworn in.

The USA will become a Socialist country.

What they forgot to consider or realise was that rogue Nations would then have a field day. North Korea is already flexing its muscles.
How has Harris or her views been kept under wraps?
Unless of course you've lost all communication with the world and have been living in a lead lined box 100ft under the ground.
 
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Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
Ok For some reason I missed you post with the links until earlier, I thought I had read all three but obviously must have looked at one twice and got all excited that they proved my point, 🙄😂. Perhaps I need to do what these professionals need to do and check my sources properly.

Sorry to drag this back up, but I’ve been out working the last few hours. Can I ask you which of the three reports in post 100 do you think proves your point? Personally, I’m not seeing the word “bleach” in any of them, but maybe my glasses need cleaned.
 
Anyway great summation from CNN (I know, I know .... corrupt MSM🥱) on the bitter aftertaste of the Trump era, and the bitter skepticism about the future of USA / EU partnership. Acknowledging that Trumpism is now imbedded in American politics and society. There’s a new, bigger, fatter school yard bully to be contended with by the EU.


Trump has trashed America's most important alliance. It could take decades to repair
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/16/europe/trump-has-trashed-the-transatlantic-alliance-intl/index.html

Time for Europe to start paying there own defence bills, that's what this is all about...........to think that America has the audacity to actually ask for payment after we have free-loaded for the last 65 years...........why.........why, its' just not done.
That nasty, nasty man, how could he.
 

Ashtree

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Time for Europe to start paying there own defence bills, that's what this is all about...........to think that America has the audacity to actually ask for payment after we have free-loaded for the last 65 years...........why.........why, its' just not done.
That nasty, nasty man, how could he.

Of course you are correct in fair part at least. Not to forget though, America having bases right next door to Russia, did very much suit their own strategic agenda.
Oh, when it comes to counties, businesses, people etc, paying their duly owed debts, Trump could start with himself. 😂😂
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
Time for Europe to start paying there own defence bills, that's what this is all about...........to think that America has the audacity to actually ask for payment after we have free-loaded for the last 65 years...........why.........why, its' just not done.
That nasty, nasty man, how could he.
Yes it's very true everyone should pay their share for defence and Trump was not wrong however free loading for 65 years I don't think so. It was very much in America's interests to protect Europe just as a large Army etc was very beneficial to the American armaments industry. If it wasn't beneficial to the U.S. of A they wouldn't have done it.
 
Time for Europe to start paying there own defence bills, that's what this is all about...........to think that America has the audacity to actually ask for payment after we have free-loaded for the last 65 years...........why.........why, its' just not done.
That nasty, nasty man, how could he.

Yes never mind all that.

What about the dead policeman? what would you say to his family.

Who was serving your hero, who ordered his followers to be strong & wild, thereby causing the policeman's death.
 
Yes it's very true everyone should pay their share for defence and Trump was not wrong however free loading for 65 years I don't think so. It was very much in America's interests to protect Europe just as a large Army etc was very beneficial to the American armaments industry. If it wasn't beneficial to the U.S. of A they wouldn't have done it.
But you agree its' time for Europe to pay there own way on this.
America should not have large numbers of troops stationed in countries such as Germany or UK.
 

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