Pasture-For-Life beef

MDL POWERUP

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Does no one else find it slightly irritating that there are now progressive ‘rules’. If you want to be a progressive and profitable farmer you need to comply. Rotational grazing is a great example - if you rotationally graze you ALWAYS make more money and are more progressive and it you can do 24hr - 30min moves you are the bestest. 😂
I think they also think it's possible to do the Greg Judy approach in Cumbria in the winter without poaching fields and making them worse rather than better. In the summer yes, winter no.
 

Inky

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Essex / G.London
Our farm and attached hill ground is owned by the National trust so putting miles of electric fencing on the hill would be a non starter. Add to that the right to roam and hundreds/thousands of walkers and cyclists and horse riders wondering wherever they like, plus the wild deer and Exmoor ponies that could decimate hell of a lot of fencing in a very short period of time, it would be practically and logistically impossible. The only way to achieve it would be with collars that shock the animals when they move out of the designated area but imagine the uproar from the animal rights nutters if that was allowed 🤦‍♂️

We've been using collar based containment on cattle for 11 years now and just moved over to GPS collars last year from a buried wire system. We had around 12 million visitors last year and have not had any uproar, did have a few extreme e-mails after we appeared on Countryfile from people who have never visited or seen the cattle.
 
Not a fan then? :ROFLMAO:

We rotationally graze a couple thousand ewes and their lambs and about a thousand cattle. But it’s all about finding what fits each block of ground and operation in terms of profitability. I’ve seen some questionable stuff with regards to labour, ground use etc which makes me think in some cases dividing everything into 24 hour moves is a waste of time and more about making the shepherd sound cool as on social media than much else.
 
We've been using collar based containment on cattle for 11 years now and just moved over to GPS collars last year from a buried wire system. We had around 12 million visitors last year and have not had any uproar, did have a few extreme e-mails after we appeared on Countryfile from people who have never visited or seen the cattle.
It's something we would be very keen to look into further. What sort of ground do you do it on? be very interested in coming for a look sometime.
 
I used to think collars were a fantastic idea.

Now not so sure if they are; "the animal rights nutters" may have a valid point in some cases.

In the right hands, they'd be a great tool though.
Seems to me they would be ideal for keeping stock in the right place in a set stocked, extensive situation. Think it would be a bit unfair on the poor buggers on a set up like yours, moving the ‘invisible’ fences daily/ multiple times per day!
 
Our farm and attached hill ground is owned by the National trust so putting miles of electric fencing on the hill would be a non starter. Add to that the right to roam and hundreds/thousands of walkers and cyclists and horse riders wondering wherever they like, plus the wild deer and Exmoor ponies that could decimate hell of a lot of fencing in a very short period of time, it would be practically and logistically impossible. The only way to achieve it would be with collars that shock the animals when they move out of the designated area but imagine the uproar from the animal rights nutters if that was allowed 🤦‍♂️
That was what I was thinking, there are collared cows in the south of England now, there are still plenty of privately owned up land areas in the UK, I accept that there are restrictions in some areas but resourcefulness can often over come restrictions, there are herds in Oz and the US that practice rotational grazing with out fences so it is possible, even if it maybe impractical.
 

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