Wreckers!!

Mur Huwcun

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
There is nothing wrong with that type of trailer. They are far stronger and built to carry more weight that all but the most HD car Transporter trailers. It is perhaps too short for balancing it's load correctly. However, for the towing vehicle to have rolled completely over and back onto its wheels again suggests to me that there was a fair element of speed involved in this accident.

Exactly, I’ve seen silage traikers, muck spreaders an slurry tankers on trailers like that with no problem as long as they’re loaded with correct amount of nose weight. For that LR they shoukd have removed headboard and fitted a lower one so as to over hang the bumper over the front.

Has any one read the Facebook comments? Apparently it was the fault of the trailer and load being heavier than towing vehicle so was expected!! 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
 
Exactly, I’ve seen silage traikers, muck spreaders an slurry tankers on trailers like that with no problem as long as they’re loaded with correct amount of nose weight. For that LR they shoukd have removed headboard and fitted a lower one so as to over hang the bumper over the front.

Has any one read the Facebook comments? Apparently it was the fault of the trailer and load being heavier than towing vehicle so was expected!! 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
I did see a screen shot that implied the towing vehicle was "sorn" and out of "mot" at the time but haven’t looked it up for myself.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
If you have reached a speed where an Ifor williams flat bed or similar trailer is unstable, you are simply driving too fast for the load, towing vehicle and conditions

Agreed - but a taller and narrower vehicle will have a narrower safe envelope than a lower and wider one. If you want to be as safe as you can be, go low and wide.

And there are plenty 3.5tonne transporters if you look, just like there are plenty 2.7 flat beds (Bateson do a 16’ 2.5tonner.)
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
I did see a screen shot that implied the towing vehicle was "sorn" and out of "mot" at the time but haven’t looked it up for myself.

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Location
southwest
He just fell asleep, he had been up most of the night before setting off early in the morning, 30m more armco barrier would have prevented it.


What a ridiculous comment! The police had tracked back his movements, rests etc over the previous few days, he was seriously sleep deprived, genuinely an accident waiting to happen, hence the prison sentence.

His vehicle went thirty yards down an embankment without the brakes being applied so it's reasonable to assume he was asleep. Tantamount to manslaughter imo.

His insurers having paid out an 8 figure sum in compensation sued Network rail on the basis that the barrier was not sufficient.

They lost
 
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norse

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Location
yorkshire
Quite simply the trailer was not long enough to be able to move the vehicle backwards or forwards to get the load in the right place and the correct amount of nose weight
 

Lincsman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
What a ridiculous comment! The police had tracked back his movements, rests etc over the previous few days, he was seriously sleep deprived, genuinely an accident waiting to happen, hence the prison sentence.

His vehicle went thirty yards down an embankment without the brakes being applied so it's reasonable to assume he was asleep. Tantamount to manslaughter imo.

His insurers having paid out an 8 figure sum in compensation sued Network rail on the basis that the barrier was not sufficient.

They lost
Go and look, still no extra Armco... it starts at the top of the slope, they have now put gabions half way down the bank, but one of those concrete walls they have in the central reservations would stop anything leaving the motorway.
 

Bloders

Member
Location
Ruabon
What a ridiculous comment! The police had tracked back his movements, rests etc over the previous few days, he was seriously sleep deprived, genuinely an accident waiting to happen, hence the prison sentence.

His vehicle went thirty yards down an embankment without the brakes being applied so it's reasonable to assume he was asleep. Tantamount to manslaughter imo.

His insurers having paid out an 8 figure sum in compensation sued Network rail on the basis that the barrier was not sufficient.

They lost
but the comment that "he (just) fell asleep" is true.
Falling asleep caused the incident, rather than speed, or the trailer turning over etc. You are of course correct in cuasal factors whihc led the driver to fall asleep.
I thought the barriers were altered after the incident, as an inquiry was ordered by John Prescot.
The incident was 20 years ago last Sunday. Very, very sad.
 

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