Australia Free Trade Deal?

bobk · May 18, 2021

cows sh#t me to tears said:
What are you all worried about if your so efficient, green (red) and highest standards (oh please give me a break). Welcome to the world of international trade .....theres always winners and losers....And get used to it, your just a very minor piece on the board in your Governments dealings.
If your so efficient, you shouldn't have a worry against product with added shipping costs should you.....
Every food known to man is available in most supermarkets here. And that's how it is. Bugger all tarrifs on anything and yet we survive (and seemingly are a threat to those of you with your heads up your arses).

Spot on bruce , problem is too many on here like sucking the EU tit ............

cows sh#t me to tears · May 18, 2021

Oh. And as @Yale said.....Theres nothing stopping you buying farmland here (try that in most countries where you are a non citizen) and hedging your bets.
I know of a UK dairy farmer that owns dairy farms here to.

Breakthru · May 18, 2021

cows sh#t me to tears said:
What are you all worried about if your so efficient, green (red) and highest standards (oh please give me a break). Welcome to the world of international trade .....theres always winners and losers....And get used to it, your just a very minor piece on the board in your Governments dealings.
If your so efficient, you shouldn't have a worry against product with added shipping costs should you.....
Every food known to man is available in most supermarkets here. And that's how it is. Bugger all tarrifs on anything and yet we survive (and seemingly are a threat to those of you with your heads up your arses).

Absolutely, EU being crass to say the least so lets replace Irish beef with OZ beef and French wine with our own and OZ wine. Sorry Eire you are in the crossfire and are just collateral damage. You still have 300 million Europeans to sell to.

kiwi pom · May 18, 2021

Breakthru said:
Absolutely, EU being crass to say the least so lets replace Irish beef with OZ beef and French wine with our own and OZ wine. Sorry Eire you are in the crossfire and are just collateral damage. You still have 300 million Europeans to sell to.

I think you're spot on there, new trade deals don't have to mean you import more, just that you change the countries you import from.
They might open up new export markets too?

cows sh#t me to tears · May 18, 2021

Argentina has just banned its 750k tonne beef exports to help feed it's own people. (Ahead of elections) 68% of that goes to China annually. Dont think we will be to worried about a little shìthole half way round the world....

bobk · May 18, 2021

cows sh#t me to tears said:
Argentina has just banned its 750k tonne beef exports to help feed it's own people. (Ahead of elections) 68% of that goes to China annually. Dont think we will be to worried about a little shìthole half way round the world....

Ireland isn't that bad .

unlacedgecko · May 18, 2021

Let's hope it comes with freedom of movement for people as well.

Breakthru · May 18, 2021

kiwi pom said:
I think you're spot on there, new trade deals don't have to mean you import more, just that you change the countries you import from.
They might open up new export markets too?

The growth is in the East so follow the market. We have dumped the EU and are now asking nicely if we can recreate the Commonwealth part 2. We buy more from EU than they do from us so when it comes down to bloody mindedness we have alternatives. We have let them roll us over so far but as in the NI border problem we will just walk away. If the EU want a hard border in Ireland then good on them. Lets see them cure the smuggling.
EU think they are smart by not agreeing on City equivalence but as a very large part of our economy if they don't back down then our response will be brutal.
As per no seed potatoes from UK, we intend to stop their smaller import of seed potatoes plus bottled water. Tit for Tat and bloody revolutions in France, Ireland, Holland and Denmark will make them see sense.
We want to be friends but it cuts both ways and personally I would prefer to see free trade with Anzacs.

M-J-G · May 18, 2021

Breakthru said:
Absolutely, EU being crass to say the least so lets replace Irish beef with OZ beef and French wine with our own and OZ wine. Sorry Eire you are in the crossfire and are just collateral damage. You still have 300 million Europeans to sell to.

And replace our own beef with Oz beef

Breakthru · May 18, 2021

M-J-G said:
And replace our own beef with Oz beef

Their beef is more expensive than ours so unless we decide to pay the premium for their Japanese market high quality product I don't see a problem.

M-J-G · May 18, 2021

Breakthru said:
Their beef is more expensive than ours so unless we decide to pay the premium for their Japanese market high quality product I don't see a problem.

Why don't we sell to Japan and cut them out then?

whitefox · May 18, 2021

betweenthelines said:
Why worry about the import of food that will need to be flown or shipped half way round the world?

If the UK can't beat that on price and quality it's a pretty poor show.

you need to read up on your history,especially britains past record of allegiance to there home producers!!

unlacedgecko · May 18, 2021

M-J-G said:
Why don't we sell to Japan and cut them out then?

A small trade deal to this effect was recently agreed was it not?

delilah · May 18, 2021

John Chance said:
Minette waffled on PM without saying anything of any meaning. She needed to list specific differences in welfare between here and Australia, but just made vague references to "maintaining our standards". The treasury minister on after her spoke plainly and said she was speaking rubbish, which was hard to disagree with. It may be that Oz beef and lamb exports are nothing to worry about, but, unless the need for a level playing field in welfare standards becomes accepted by the government and demanded by the consumer, the next step is unlimited US beef.

I wish I had heard that. It would have been nice to hear some acknowledgement that the whole NFU 'produced to our standards' malarkey was dead in the water from day 1.
https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/this-nfu-produced-to-our-standards-malarkey.311486/

Breakthru · May 18, 2021

M-J-G said:
Why don't we sell to Japan and cut them out then?

It is a very specialist market that requires a particular type of beef with a very high degree of marbling. Rather than try to take on something that would be difficult and expensive to create and then to deliver it would be better to cultivate our US friends with Grass fed beef to a very high standard which we are already good at. There are markets there for the taking you just have to cultivate and nurture them.

cows sh#t me to tears · May 18, 2021

M-J-G said:
Why don't we sell to Japan and cut them out then?

Nothing stopping you doing a free trade deal with Japan.... Of course these things come at a price, and that may mean cheaper imported cars which eventually (5 years) shutdown UK auto industry....

steveR · May 18, 2021

cows sh#t me to tears said:
Nothing stopping you doing a free trade deal with Japan.... Of course these things come at a price, and that may mean cheaper imported cars which eventually (5 years) shutdown UK auto industry....

What UK auto industry? Its all being leaving this septic isle post 2016...

Ashtree · May 18, 2021

cows sh#t me to tears said:
Nothing stopping you doing a free trade deal with Japan.... Of course these things come at a price, and that may mean cheaper imported cars which eventually (5 years) shutdown UK auto industry....

Do keep up old boy. Lizzie already got her Japan deal over the line. Cut and paste of the EU deal, but the nasty Japanese changed some of the key terms and conditions to give themselves a better slice of the pie. Oh, they very politely told Lizzie, that ”no, they had no interest in taking Stilton off her hands”!

Hilly · May 18, 2021

cows sh#t me to tears said:
Nothing stopping you doing a free trade deal with Japan.... Of course these things come at a price, and that may mean cheaper imported cars which eventually (5 years) shutdown UK auto industry....

I seem to recall we made a deal with Japan ?

whitefox · May 18, 2021

M-J-G said:
Why don't we sell to Japan and cut them out then?

because to access there markets we would need 1 a consistent premium product
2 a government that gave a sh5t
3..........see 2

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