Are a lot of younger professors, researchers vegatarian/vegan?

Pilatus · Jun 25, 2021

Paddington said:
I notice that those proposing rewilding do not actually live in the areas where rewilding is to take place, or own livestock.

Or make a living from farming.

Paddington · Jun 25, 2021

George Eustace on the radio the other morning agreeing that we need to cut consumption of meat, but also new cattle feed is being developed which will cut the methane output of cattle by 30% (so not grass, then). Anybody know about this ?

BRB John · Jun 25, 2021

Problem is that these Vegan Influencers are confused about where they live. Think killing all the cows will save the rainforest as if we were brazil or the Congo or something...

BRB John · Jun 25, 2021

Paddington said:
George Eustace on the radio the other morning agreeing that we need to cut consumption of meat, but also new cattle feed is being developed which will cut the methane output of cattle by 30% (so not grass, then). Anybody know about this ?

Is that the Seaweed Feed that they are going to dredge the beaches and seas for....?

Yale · Jun 25, 2021

How about if we sent all immigrants back to where they came from our carbon emissions would be a lot lower due to a smaller population.

But you can’t say that because the woke generation and the BBC would have you on toast for it.

Some aspects may be uncomfortable and that’s why animals are being targeted,because they can’t answer back.

Jackov Altraids · Jun 25, 2021

To answer the OP, I don't think that these people are proportionally more likely to be vegan or vegetarian but affected by our education system being 'institutionally leftist' for a generation.

A couple generations ago,virtually everybody had a personal knowledge of agriculture or certainly knew many that did. The opposite is now true.

The combination of these 2 factors breeds an ignorance and contempt for the most fundamental industry for a country which feeds its population.

Sadly, this also seems to apply to vast swathes in the media which amplifies the effect considerably.

primmiemoo · Jun 25, 2021

Paddington said:
George Eustace on the radio the other morning agreeing that we need to cut consumption of meat, but also new cattle feed is being developed which will cut the methane output of cattle by 30% (so not grass, then). Anybody know about this ?

The National Beef Association along with feed millers are in cahoots with this.

It's all based on ignorance, and lobbying by the most intensive beef finishers - who happen to be loud noises in the NBA under its new committee.

Jackov Altraids · Jun 25, 2021

Jackov Altraids said:
To answer the OP, I don't think that these people are proportionally more likely to be vegan or vegetarian but affected by our education system being 'institutionally leftist' for a generation.

A couple generations ago,virtually everybody had a personal knowledge of agriculture or certainly knew many that did. The opposite is now true.

The combination of these 2 factors breeds an ignorance and contempt for the most fundamental industry for a country which feeds its population.

Sadly, this also seems to apply to vast swathes in the media which amplifies the effect considerably.

I chose to show the potential hazards of introducing NVZ's for my main coursework for my A-level geography. It may be just that I'm useless, but I've always thought my poor result was more to do with the dislike of the content than its scholarly value.

GeorgeC1 · Jun 25, 2021

Well if lots of educated people and researchers say we need to do something there must be something to it

Pilatus · Jun 25, 2021

Jackov Altraids said:
To answer the OP, I don't think that these people are proportionally more likely to be vegan or vegetarian but affected by our education system being 'institutionally leftist' for a generation.

A couple generations ago,virtually everybody had a personal knowledge of agriculture or certainly knew many that did. The opposite is now true.

The combination of these 2 factors breeds an ignorance and contempt for the most fundamental industry for a country which feeds its population.

Sadly, this also seems to apply to vast swathes in the media which amplifies the effect considerably.

I agree entirely

Suffolk Serf · Jun 25, 2021

GeorgeC1 said:
Well if lots of educated people and researchers say we need to do something there must be something to it

No. Most research is funded by those with a vested interest.
There isn’t much money to be made by multinational corporations from ruminant livestock mob grazing multi species leys within a regenerative farming system.
Whereas, there is a fortune to be made by selling highly processed vegan pap, or manufactured “meat”.

Henarar · Jun 25, 2021

delilah said:
The NFU can't question Govt decision makers, as the NFU agrees with Govt that livestock are part of the problem.

Ditto the AHDB, who only two days ago told Westminster that we need to replace cows with trees to save the planet.

https://ahdb.org.uk/news/trade-and-policy/horizon-blog-net-zero

This is what your subs and levies are being used for. There is only one way to stop it; for all of you as individual farmers to make a nuisance of yourselves.

Looking at that there seems the need to encourage arable and veg farmers to plant trees and for the gen public to eat more meat from the carbon sequesting pp and nuts and fruit from the newly planted trees

Hindsight · Jun 25, 2021

Paddington said:
I notice that those proposing rewilding do not actually live in the areas where rewilding is to take place, or own livestock.

Or in the case of Isabella Tree have created a very healthy eco business off rewilding in a rather wealthy part of Southern England. Hey ho.

Henarar · Jun 25, 2021

Paddington said:
George Eustace on the radio the other morning agreeing that we need to cut consumption of meat, but also new cattle feed is being developed which will cut the methane output of cattle by 30% (so not grass, then). Anybody know about this ?

That's all we need, more fecking inputs to buy

Hindsight · Jun 25, 2021

GeorgeC1 said:
Well if lots of educated people and researchers say we need to do something there must be something to it

Let me think a few cows grazing or TUI and BA jets taking folks to the Balearics - which is the more polluting and sustainable. Not sure are we?

DrWazzock · Jun 25, 2021

GeorgeC1 said:
Well if lots of educated people and researchers say we need to do something there must be something to it

Just because they are educated it does not actually mean they are that bright. Education doesn’t make people more intelligent it just “draws out” whats there. And it tends to draw it out and shape in a way determined largely by the views of the teacher. Go to a planning meeting and suggest we build an abattoir and 99% will be against you. Yet abattoirs are absolutely essential.

Henarar · Jun 25, 2021

GeorgeC1 said:
Well if lots of educated people and researchers say we need to do something there must be something to it

are you some sort of comedian ?

HatsOff · Jun 25, 2021

I spoke to a researcher about the carbon cycle and she completely agreed. The crucial thing is not digging up fossilised carbon and burning it, everything else is just tweaking around the edges.

And their reports to DEFRA said just that.

I don't believe the recent emphasis on meat is coming from bone fide climate scientists (at least not that one)... it's from the media with other agendas and poor science education; I suspect encouraged by oil & gas companies and their compliant politicians; and from the vegetarian/vegan campaigners who are obviously strongly represented in environmental groups.

Wilksy · Jun 25, 2021

MX7 said:
I ask the above as I see on the BBC News app today that some “government body” is saying yet again society must reduce their intake of meat to help save the planet.
When we drove up the M6 to Glasgow and back from the Cotswolds last Sunday,I thought to my self as we drove through the area around Tebay and Penrith and I glanced sheep and cattle on the hills, “How on earth can anyone with a brain in there head think those animals are polluting the atmosphere more than me and the rest of us in our internal combustion engine vehicles”unless you are a vegetarian/vegan trying to turn society away from eating meat .

I’ve often though that the Jeremy vine producers must LGBTQ’s vegans, and judging by that researcher job that was ‘positive discrimination’ I’d say that a high % of the BBC are and those that aren’t are having to make all the right noises to keep in the click

TechWise · Jun 25, 2021

Once you understand how the system works in academia, it's not hard to understand why they attack farmers the way they do:

You can't criticize China or India because half your students come from there and they pay big money.
You can't criticize big power generation companies because they fund your research and your title of professor is de facto "bought" by bringing in research funding from industry.
You can't criticize air travel because you fly all around the world to preach at conferences.
You can't criticize government policy because that risks your seat on the next big committee and your subsequent knighthood.

So who does that leave? Oh yes, you criticize farmers because you reckon there's not many of them in academia so you won't be challenged and the leftist media outlets already hate them so they'll lap it up.

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100% I’ve had enough of farming!

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