- Location
- East yorks
We let them put in a kissing gate for the same reason as I didn’t want the legal responsibility of the stile when someone fell off it
footpath width
- Thread starter rollestonpark
- Start date
We let them put in a kissing gate for the same reason as I didn’t want the legal responsibility of the stile when someone fell off it
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
isn't it an terrible that we feel we have to do things like that
- Location
- East yorks
A lot of it seem to be people struggling to get their fat dogs over stiles so the want a kissing gate
Yeah, NP installed " self closing " gates here. Numpties prop them open with sticks. 
Gave up keeping tack sheep for this reason. There has to be a limit to the number of income streams I give up just because doggers want to persue their f**king hobby though........
Gave up keeping tack sheep for this reason. There has to be a limit to the number of income streams I give up just because doggers want to persue their f**king hobby though........
cowslippers
Member
What legal basis are you referring to? The law states "You have the right to access some land for walking or certain other leisure activities." Where does it state that it can only be used to get "somewhere"?
cowslippers
Member
My dog is far from fat. He does weigh 30kg though, so it does help to have a gap that he can get through.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
The historic basis - the reason that they exist as opposed to the use (abuse) that this evolved into.
cowslippers
Member
Motorways used to have very little traffic. As the traffic outgrew the motorway, they were improved to be suitable for purpose and safety measures were upgraded to protect those using them.
Can't see there being much wrong with doing the same thing with footpaths.
cowslippers
Member
So your interpretation of what is a well established (in England) right of way for the public with no such restriction as you have suggested? OK. Well good luck with that.
I think we all have come across these types now and then. Got one locally with his bloody hound. I really feel for the dog having such and arrogant, unpleasant owner. However, I was far from surprised when local info told me the Police had visited him for some anti social behaviour and dog cruelty... Somehow, you can just tell in some cases!
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Please stop implying things about my own opinions! I’m exploring the current basis, the historic basis and trying to work out both where it went wrong and what might be the eventual position. Be clear - I have no bite in the game and no opinion beyond a belief that the status quo isn’t acceptable to all parties.
cowslippers
Member
You put forward an opinion that the "legal basis" of footpaths was to "get somewhere" and that is not true. It may have been the original intent, but they are now for walking on and "other recreational activities" according to legislation. There is no requirement to be going anywhere in particular to use a footpath.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
The historic legal basis - I corrected myself in post 148 following your query.
That'll be good, fenced all round, access restricted to certain users,, not too fast and not too slow. Best of all, no stopping
- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
I would give up if I were you and put the troll on ignore. They aren't here for any other reason than to tell farmers they are wrong and dog walkers are right.
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
difference is, motorways don't belong to someone else, who only has to allow the cars to pass across their property
cowslippers
Member
Ah. You want to just sit here in an echo chamber and moan about anyone that disagrees with your opinion about how dog walkers should be banned from the countryside? That's such an enlightened position to be adopting when the debate is hotting up around the country. Can't understand for the life of me why farmers get a reputation for being curmudgeonly and "Get oorf my laaaand" types at all!
I agree with much of the opinion held in here. I'm just trying to put in an exterior opinion that continuing to seek conflict is not going to end well for either side in this. Oh well. I'm off to find a cowshit-strewn footpath to walk the dog on. Have a nice evening.
Well you seem to be suggesting cattle should be excluded from fields with footpaths. So someone's income slashed just because of your dog walking hobby. The ultimate solution of course is this....
Fine by me, question is, who pays for it ?
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Dog owners and hikers. Put a £1000/yr licence on dogs and a 1500% tax on walking boots, tax deductible for those with an occupational need.