- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Not quite, but close! If where I'm looking is 12 o'clock, McGills are about 2.30 but similar distance (3 miles?)
Must admit your question shocked me a little
"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
- Thread starter Kiwi Pete
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Must admit your question shocked me a little
- Location
- Western Washington
Cool. What a special area that is where you reside. It has been about 10 years since I last saw or communicated with Bruce and Denise. Life got in the way. One of my favorite spots in the world.
- Location
- Western Washington
I remember that slope. Bruce used to have a paddock right off the new haven rd. I suppose at about 2 o'clock.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Yeah, it's a great part of the world, especially over the past year or two, it seems like a lot of the world's problems tend to stop at Tunnel Hill
Since you know where they are -
- the far horizon is their hill block.
Only the dairy farm between us and the river, and only the river between the dairy and the McGill's.
Ben has bought a farm at Tahakopa (ironically @holwellcourtfarm was looking at that one) which completes their block down there quite nicely, instead of it having a hole in the middle.
- Location
- Western Washington
Beautiful. Makes me want to pack a bag and come down. Oh wait. There is Covid and one of my pups has kennel cough. See, there it is, Life. Just can't escaped it. Never met Ben, he was playing in Queenstown. I did meet Cara and all of her horses. Wish them well for me next time you bump into them.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Will definitely pass that on. Amazing just how many people on TFF have been right past where we are .... I'll never be going past where they are!
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
That often happens with renowned Gurus......
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
That block looked very attractive until Jacinda squeezed into power.......Yeah, it's a great part of the world, especially over the past year or two, it seems like a lot of the world's problems tend to stop at Tunnel Hill
Since you know where they are -View attachment 979284
- the far horizon is their hill block.
Only the dairy farm between us and the river, and only the river between the dairy and the McGill's.
Ben has bought a farm at Tahakopa (ironically @holwellcourtfarm was looking at that one) which completes their block down there quite nicely, instead of it having a hole in the middle.
why what did she do ?
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
If you think it's bad here.....
Brother just been on phone to his mate in NZ. Sounds like cinders is in the process of destroying there whole ag industry. Lamb price could be up here for a while.....
thefarmingforum.co.uk
And from here onwards:
New Zealand - Land of milk and honey? Holwellcourtfarm's tour 2017
Kind of guessing a bit here but I think one of the reasons its hard, is to help Kiwi's to work up to farm ownership. I'm not sure its possible now but only a few years ago you could start as an entry level dairy worker for example and work your way up through management jobs and share farming...
thefarmingforum.co.uk
- Location
- Cei newydd
Think the lane the cattle are grazing now has got more than enough recovery time.
Im making them work hard atm to grow some quality regrowth, dung a bit to solid but they are very content.
Last pic is the residual, think it's about right, last lane grazed is greening up.
This was my sacrifice field in late winter and gave it a rest late april and may and it just went from good lamb grass to silage/hay very quickly.
Father came over last weekend and i took him to see the cattle, i wasn't shure what he'd say about grazing such mature grass, to my suprise he thought i was right to graze it rather than make silage/ hay.
I have made all of 24 bales of good quality silage as plan B for winter, and get some aftermath.
What i could have done with as talked about before is a large herd of cows for a week or two in june to top the grass.
Im making them work hard atm to grow some quality regrowth, dung a bit to solid but they are very content.
Last pic is the residual, think it's about right, last lane grazed is greening up.
Father came over last weekend and i took him to see the cattle, i wasn't shure what he'd say about grazing such mature grass, to my suprise he thought i was right to graze it rather than make silage/ hay.
I have made all of 24 bales of good quality silage as plan B for winter, and get some aftermath.
What i could have done with as talked about before is a large herd of cows for a week or two in june to top the grass.
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- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Busy day here today, had a shuffle- about with some animals.
Merv took his cows & calves home (been here the alotted 8 weeks) so we ran that mob into the shelter and sorted them out.
One of the neighbours heifers blew in in the storm the other night, so we got our cows in and cut her out, gave her a ride back to the neighbour.
Then I put up some "armstrong techno" in one of the paddocks and put our bunch out there, and shoved the 2 bulls and 2 bull calves out of the way up the back.
And, entertained a mate who just happened to show up.
And, had another inch of rain in the meantime. Really chucking it down again, and blowing up a storm. Roll on springtime!
Merv took his cows & calves home (been here the alotted 8 weeks) so we ran that mob into the shelter and sorted them out.
One of the neighbours heifers blew in in the storm the other night, so we got our cows in and cut her out, gave her a ride back to the neighbour.
Then I put up some "armstrong techno" in one of the paddocks and put our bunch out there, and shoved the 2 bulls and 2 bull calves out of the way up the back.
And, entertained a mate who just happened to show up.
And, had another inch of rain in the meantime. Really chucking it down again, and blowing up a storm. Roll on springtime!
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- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
110 day's growth, Sam. Grazed 26th April according to the chart.
So, it's a bit of both
edit 30th April according to my phone
So, it's a bit of both
edit 30th April according to my phone
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- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
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Went to move the cows and we have one with a bad foot. Pretty standard, she was in the farthest paddock from the pen.
So the discussion ensued, when can we move her, how are we doing it... Could we get her behind a gate rather than walk her up the road...
At this point I said no, she's going in the pen and we are using the crush so that we are all safe and she will just have to bear it a little longer.
Hour later and she's in the pen, pain killer applied and Dad's just applying some spray to a cut on her foot. Then BANG she kicks hard at the back gate on the crush, fastest I've ever seen anything move.
After the normal comments about needing a change of underpants my brother commented that that is the reason that I had said she needed putting in the crush in the first place. Very true.
These cows are the most docile you will get, even the vet can walk amongst them without any fuss. Just shows that you can't take anything for granted when working with stock.
So the discussion ensued, when can we move her, how are we doing it... Could we get her behind a gate rather than walk her up the road...
At this point I said no, she's going in the pen and we are using the crush so that we are all safe and she will just have to bear it a little longer.
Hour later and she's in the pen, pain killer applied and Dad's just applying some spray to a cut on her foot. Then BANG she kicks hard at the back gate on the crush, fastest I've ever seen anything move.
After the normal comments about needing a change of underpants my brother commented that that is the reason that I had said she needed putting in the crush in the first place. Very true.
These cows are the most docile you will get, even the vet can walk amongst them without any fuss. Just shows that you can't take anything for granted when working with stock.
- Location
- somerset
we forget that they are 'domesticated' wild animals, the sense of danger, is still there, we were given a book on 'cow signals', about how cows react to movement, by predators, us. Must admit that l thought it was a load of ballcocks, till l actually thought about it. Definitely wouldn't have bought the book, and most of what was written, we would call, good stockman ship, and we do without thinking, but the oh so real fact, if he/she doesn't know you are there, nature takes over, and as you say, wham bang.
It's the same with cows and calves, walkers with dogs, trouble is waiting to happen, cow doesn't know walker or dog, hormones gone mad, and could end up very nastily. In the case of cows/calves, not at all sure what the answer is, especially with the public wandering everywhere, there is no way of zero risk, and blame will fall on us, when there is nothing we can do, to stop inborn instinct.
It's the same with cows and calves, walkers with dogs, trouble is waiting to happen, cow doesn't know walker or dog, hormones gone mad, and could end up very nastily. In the case of cows/calves, not at all sure what the answer is, especially with the public wandering everywhere, there is no way of zero risk, and blame will fall on us, when there is nothing we can do, to stop inborn instinct.
- Location
- somerset
perhaps, if the loony rewilding zealots, finally get their way, and then re-introduce, wolves, bears etc, and nature takes control, then, if people start getting attacked/killed etc, we might get back to reality.
- Location
- Quebec, Canada
any chance of a ‘before‘photo as comparison?