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- Cirencester
Already have!!!
Fair play to FW for tackling AIC issue head on.
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warksfarmer
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My word. Wait until you read this!
Assured Food Standards (RT) is a not-for-profit company, with 6 guarantors. One is AHDB, another is NFU.
Scottish Quality Crops is a company limited by guarantee, one of the members of the company is AIC.
See below web links and screenshots...
Who We Are: The Red Tractor Team - Red Tractor Assurance
Red Tractor is a not-for-profit company created by farmers and industry leaders in 2000.assurance.redtractor.org.uk
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If AIC were to let us have same feed mill access arrangements as imports, then SQC loses members and income. Remember AIC are one of SQC's owners.
RT would lose members and income. AHDB and NFU are guarantors of AFS.
So when we ask for a tick box declaration, we are met with resistance, but given no valid reason why not.
The water is muddy.
When we've talked to AHDB about a tick box, they've not said no, but have gone down the route of talking to RT. It's got nothing to do with RT. It doesn't need RT's approval.
But if AHDB were to get AIC to allow tick-box declaration, then as guarantors of RT and SQC, AHDB and AIC would have decimated income for the companies they are guarantors for.
Same goes for NFU, hence presumably why the malaise from NFU.
With this conflict of interest, are levy payers ever going to get genuine help from AHDB? I think levy payers are due an explanation from Nicholas Saphir over this.
I could never understand the full reasons for the illogical resistance to a tick-box pesticide declaration. I do now understand why there is resistance.
I smell some rats, and they're not in my RT assured grain store. They're in the offices at AHDB and AIC and NFU.
Meanwhile, farmers get charged millions £££ each year to be forced to be farm assured.
One for the Rogue Traders TV programme.
!!!!! It's a scandal !!!!!
Panorama apparently now know about the RT con and the back room deals in the Nfu.
- Location
- Durham, UK
Keep up the fight guys its heartining to know there are farmers willing to stand upto this bloody racket.
warksfarmer
Member
AHDB are finished when the cereals vote comes.
- Location
- Yorks
I can't see any way out for any of them.
Note in the FW article, not a single reason as to why UK grain can't be assured by similar method as imports.
They deflected by disputing irrelevant things, but yet again dodged the issue giving us no credible reasoning.
Because there isn’t any credible reasoning
- Location
- Yorks
They've got a lot to do before xmas of they want to survive.
No wonder progress has been slow when we begin to understand the conflicts of interest.
A development board and NFU that have backed closing off our market access vs imported competitor grains.
Words fail me.
- Location
- The North
every farmer i speak to is completely fed up with rt, livestock to arable, the assured grain thing is a total joke,
cant the forum influence farmer guardian to get more articles run?
as said its what farmer are thinking and its a huge topic surely it should be regular feature in there?
great work so far to those who are fighting it, i sacked rt off about 3 years ago but i did not make huge odd with fat lambs, one way to go it sack it off though no members = no RT
cant the forum influence farmer guardian to get more articles run?
as said its what farmer are thinking and its a huge topic surely it should be regular feature in there?
great work so far to those who are fighting it, i sacked rt off about 3 years ago but i did not make huge odd with fat lambs, one way to go it sack it off though no members = no RT
- Location
- Yorks
Been thinking about flour millers, who tend (pretty much always) ask for RT, but buy imports.
They can ask for RT, because most grain is RT. Most grain is RT because if crop misses spec, it goes for feed, so farmer has to be RT to sell for feed.
Therefore, flour millers always have RT grain available, so may as well ask for it, as it's free for them to do so.
If feed growers bin RT, then if some flour millers still ask for RT, it might mean they'd have to offer a premium price?
They can ask for RT, because most grain is RT. Most grain is RT because if crop misses spec, it goes for feed, so farmer has to be RT to sell for feed.
Therefore, flour millers always have RT grain available, so may as well ask for it, as it's free for them to do so.
If feed growers bin RT, then if some flour millers still ask for RT, it might mean they'd have to offer a premium price?
tullah
Member
- Location
- Linconshire
And farmers have been paying their Nfu subs totally unaware that Nfu is the guarantor of their pet hate RT.
Weve now got to the bottom of this racket and the media are loving it.
Big surprises coming in the next few weeks. A week is a long time in...
Well, the dear old NFU has a month to show some real positive changes, or my subs are going to stop in the bank account.
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- Location
- Warwickshire
I've cancelled our NFU direct debit, I had a letter from them assuming I'd changed banks & would I like to send them my new details on a new DD form.
I ignored it.
I ignored it.
Batty
Member
Think most livestock farmers will tell you they had more choice of outlets before red tractor than there is available now.
- Location
- Essex
The non farmers union are owners of red tractor, who have built up considerable reserves from farmer contributions.
The same goes for ahdb. It wouldn't be much for either of them to give up that ownership if it's considered a conflict of interest.
- Location
- Cirencester
Exactly the same as unassured wheat then, I have no milling market or malting market because I wont join the Cartel. None of this occurred before they got involved, milling wheat was plain old milling wheat, just like imported stuff
You should have informed them exactly why, and tell your local NFU rep too.
And the County Chair in my case as well...
- Location
- Essex
Does anybody know how to find the red tractor accounts?
All I found was this which days it's a dormant company with shareholder funds of £100. What am I missing?
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk
All I found was this which days it's a dormant company with shareholder funds of £100. What am I missing?
RED TRACTOR FOOD ASSURANCE LTD. filing history - Find and update company information - GOV.UK
RED TRACTOR FOOD ASSURANCE LTD. - Free company information from Companies House including registered office address, filing history, accounts, annual return, officers, charges, business activity
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk
tullah
Member
- Location
- Linconshire
Here we go! Theres a hell of a head of steam out there and the more we dig the more we find. The press have started their field day and I can't wait for payday.
I'm enjoying this!
I'm enjoying this!
- Location
- Yorks
.. and still we await any decent explanation from AIC,NFU,RT,AHDB as to why we can't have a tick-box pesticide declaration as a method to assure food safety if UK grain.
They don’t have an explanation. if they did I’m sure we would have been informed of it a long time ago!
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