All things Dairy

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
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somerset
One of my nearest dairying neighbors is building a massive US style free stall barn. Shed is just starting to go up. Probably 3/4 of a million or more....I'm not that keen to lock myself into milking cows for another 25 years.......pics taken from road.View attachment 988703View attachment 988704
If you look closely the blue shed to the left is there 50 unit rotary. The shed for that is 60x80 . The same size as our dairy. It pales into insignificance compared to the barn.
that is a massive leap of faith in dairy farming, he obviously thinks there is a profitable future in dairy farming, in Aus. Over here, milk is seen as a loss leader, by the s/mkts, which keeps a very tight lid on prices, l am afraid l would not be prepared to invest massively in dairy, at the moment.
 
that is a massive leap of faith in dairy farming, he obviously thinks there is a profitable future in dairy farming, in Aus. Over here, milk is seen as a loss leader, by the s/mkts, which keeps a very tight lid on prices, l am afraid l would not be prepared to invest massively in dairy, at the moment.
Christ.. do it right and this an amazing job to be in.
 

Cowmansam

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Livestock Farmer
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Shropshire
One of my nearest dairying neighbors is building a massive US style free stall barn. Shed is just starting to go up. Probably 3/4 of a million or more....I'm not that keen to lock myself into milking cows for another 25 years.......pics taken from road.View attachment 988703View attachment 988704
If you look closely the blue shed to the left is there 50 unit rotary. The shed for that is 60x80 . The same size as our dairy. It pales into insignificance compared to the barn.
How many cows would they be aiming for in a set up that size
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Not sure where cheese is being sold as a loss leader ?Where currently that isn’t in a massive paper money type bubble.
the whole problem is food is to cheap, for the public, and guv does not want it to rise, dearer food, means less money spent on taxable goods = less money/tax for guv.
It is very doubtful food will get to it's proper value, unless an absolute shortage, 250 years ago, food would require 70% of wages to survive, today that figure is sub 5%, the difference is spent on taxable goods.
We invest, expand, on the hope things will 'improve', but guv has a vested interest in stopping that occurring, and that position is highly unlikely to change.
From a strictly money angle, that money can earn you more, invested elsewhere. We are told, by accountants etc, the average dairy farmer is not making much profit, the top 25% are. So, unless you are in that top group, investing in new buildings/parlours etc, can be an expensive weight on ones shoulders.
Your local cheesemaker is shutting down 2 of his 10 dairies.
 

cows sh#t me to tears

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Livestock Farmer
Housing market boom here and the stamp duty the states collect from it is filling state government revenue coffers here. Everything is going up though. Hyperinflation is only a glitch away from rearing its head in the USA where they are printing money hand over fist. The disaster that is imminent in China could make the GFC look like a walk in the park. So, governments worldwide cant have rising food prices for consumers to contend with as that can lead to civil war and overthrow. They'd rather have impoverished idiot price taking farmers as that's what we are conditioned to take year after year.
 
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Trimming first lame cow in ages this happens 🤬 any idea where I am get a new one please.
 
the whole problem is food is to cheap, for the public, and guv does not want it to rise, dearer food, means less money spent on taxable goods = less money/tax for guv.
It is very doubtful food will get to it's proper value, unless an absolute shortage, 250 years ago, food would require 70% of wages to survive, today that figure is sub 5%, the difference is spent on taxable goods.
We invest, expand, on the hope things will 'improve', but guv has a vested interest in stopping that occurring, and that position is highly unlikely to change.
From a strictly money angle, that money can earn you more, invested elsewhere. We are told, by accountants etc, the average dairy farmer is not making much profit, the top 25% are. So, unless you are in that top group, investing in new buildings/parlours etc, can be an expensive weight on ones shoulders.
Your local cheesemaker is shutting down 2 of his 10 dairies.
Why wouldn’t they if there not performing? And I quite agree if your no good get out. But that’s the same in any industry. Am sick and tired of those who can’t thinking none of us can and slagging of the industry and the opportunities it can provide.
 
Then you must have 100's of acres at the parlour door? Some of us are not that blessed.
What is the rate of return on the value of that land?
Were you not complaining about profit during droughts? Buying fodder?
Never complain about profitability. I regArd myself as incredibly fortunate and never moan about my industry to the general public. I could be living in Afghanistan.
I undoubtedly get rain envy and at times Tb free envy otherwise I am living my best life.
currently on the land we “own”roe will be around 7% this yr.
 

Ball acre

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Location
Somerset
the whole problem is food is to cheap, for the public, and guv does not want it to rise, dearer food, means less money spent on taxable goods = less money/tax for guv.
It is very doubtful food will get to it's proper value, unless an absolute shortage, 250 years ago, food would require 70% of wages to survive, today that figure is sub 5%, the difference is spent on taxable goods.
We invest, expand, on the hope things will 'improve', but guv has a vested interest in stopping that occurring, and that position is highly unlikely to change.
From a strictly money angle, that money can earn you more, invested elsewhere. We are told, by accountants etc, the average dairy farmer is not making much profit, the top 25% are. So, unless you are in that top group, investing in new buildings/parlours etc, can be an expensive weight on ones shoulders.
Your local cheesemaker is shutting down 2 of his 10 dairies.
Why is he shutting down two of his dairies?
 

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