- Location
- southern riverina Australia
None here.How much snow do you get in the winter?
None here.How much snow do you get in the winter?
Yes it does.Does it snow in Australia?
that is a massive leap of faith in dairy farming, he obviously thinks there is a profitable future in dairy farming, in Aus. Over here, milk is seen as a loss leader, by the s/mkts, which keeps a very tight lid on prices, l am afraid l would not be prepared to invest massively in dairy, at the moment.One of my nearest dairying neighbors is building a massive US style free stall barn. Shed is just starting to go up. Probably 3/4 of a million or more....I'm not that keen to lock myself into milking cows for another 25 years.......pics taken from road.View attachment 988703View attachment 988704
If you look closely the blue shed to the left is there 50 unit rotary. The shed for that is 60x80 . The same size as our dairy. It pales into insignificance compared to the barn.
More than you think !Does it snow in Australia?
Christ.. do it right and this an amazing job to be in.that is a massive leap of faith in dairy farming, he obviously thinks there is a profitable future in dairy farming, in Aus. Over here, milk is seen as a loss leader, by the s/mkts, which keeps a very tight lid on prices, l am afraid l would not be prepared to invest massively in dairy, at the moment.
"do it right" is sometimes used as justification for massive infrastructure?Christ.. do it right and this an amazing job to be in.
and so it should be, but massive investment, in producing a 'loss leader' product, pretty sure you could put the money elsewhere, for a much better/easier return. Change the loss leader bit, very different picture.Christ.. do it right and this an amazing job to be in.
How many cows would they be aiming for in a set up that sizeOne of my nearest dairying neighbors is building a massive US style free stall barn. Shed is just starting to go up. Probably 3/4 of a million or more....I'm not that keen to lock myself into milking cows for another 25 years.......pics taken from road.View attachment 988703View attachment 988704
If you look closely the blue shed to the left is there 50 unit rotary. The shed for that is 60x80 . The same size as our dairy. It pales into insignificance compared to the barn.
Not 100% sure if there current numbers. Think between 650 to 800 all year round at moment.How many cows would they be aiming for in a set up that size
Not sure where cheese is being sold as a loss leader ?Where currently that isn’t in a massive paper money type bubble.and so it should be, but massive investment, in producing a 'loss leader' product, pretty sure you could put the money elsewhere, for a much better/easier return. Change the loss leader bit, very different picture.
Yeap we have miles of concrete tracks"do it right" is sometimes used as justification for massive infrastructure?
the whole problem is food is to cheap, for the public, and guv does not want it to rise, dearer food, means less money spent on taxable goods = less money/tax for guv.Not sure where cheese is being sold as a loss leader ?Where currently that isn’t in a massive paper money type bubble.
Why wouldn’t they if there not performing? And I quite agree if your no good get out. But that’s the same in any industry. Am sick and tired of those who can’t thinking none of us can and slagging of the industry and the opportunities it can provide.the whole problem is food is to cheap, for the public, and guv does not want it to rise, dearer food, means less money spent on taxable goods = less money/tax for guv.
It is very doubtful food will get to it's proper value, unless an absolute shortage, 250 years ago, food would require 70% of wages to survive, today that figure is sub 5%, the difference is spent on taxable goods.
We invest, expand, on the hope things will 'improve', but guv has a vested interest in stopping that occurring, and that position is highly unlikely to change.
From a strictly money angle, that money can earn you more, invested elsewhere. We are told, by accountants etc, the average dairy farmer is not making much profit, the top 25% are. So, unless you are in that top group, investing in new buildings/parlours etc, can be an expensive weight on ones shoulders.
Your local cheesemaker is shutting down 2 of his 10 dairies.
Then you must have 100's of acres at the parlour door? Some of us are not that blessed.Yeap we have miles of concrete tracks
I just use a loop of ratchet strap spreads the load over more area of her leg tooView attachment 988757View attachment 988758Trimming first lame cow in ages this happens any idea where I am get a new one please.
Never complain about profitability. I regArd myself as incredibly fortunate and never moan about my industry to the general public. I could be living in Afghanistan.Then you must have 100's of acres at the parlour door? Some of us are not that blessed.
What is the rate of return on the value of that land?
Were you not complaining about profit during droughts? Buying fodder?
SparkfordView attachment 988757View attachment 988758Trimming first lame cow in ages this happens any idea where I am get a new one please.
Why is he shutting down two of his dairies?the whole problem is food is to cheap, for the public, and guv does not want it to rise, dearer food, means less money spent on taxable goods = less money/tax for guv.
It is very doubtful food will get to it's proper value, unless an absolute shortage, 250 years ago, food would require 70% of wages to survive, today that figure is sub 5%, the difference is spent on taxable goods.
We invest, expand, on the hope things will 'improve', but guv has a vested interest in stopping that occurring, and that position is highly unlikely to change.
From a strictly money angle, that money can earn you more, invested elsewhere. We are told, by accountants etc, the average dairy farmer is not making much profit, the top 25% are. So, unless you are in that top group, investing in new buildings/parlours etc, can be an expensive weight on ones shoulders.
Your local cheesemaker is shutting down 2 of his 10 dairies.