Finding an Easy calving beef bull!

Martyn

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Location
South west
It is not just the bull it is the season and management. I've had a lot of trouble this year. Just pulled a big blue 5 minutes ago. From what the vet tells me, the size of the calf is determined in the 6th & 7th month of pregnancy. A grassy late summer like this one will cause problems for cows calving now.
Cows are spitting out Limi calves no issues it's just our heifers we struggle on. Kept them fairly tight all summer.
 

Ducati899

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Location
north dorset
I find it fascinating how things vary on different farms,we bred pedigree lims for a good 20 years before dairying and wouldn’t put a lim bull on our heifers that’s for sure,used Hereford’s for years on heifers with little problems but have switched to a Angus this year but haven’t had any calves as of yet from him so watch this space
Cows are spitting out Limi calves no issues it's just our heifers we struggle on. Kept them fairly tight all summer.
 
Try Alan Gifford at twilight Herefords at Milton Damerel, we've used his bulls since 2017, hardly have to pull anything, @Cows 'n grass uses his bulls too, we've found Angus not easy calving, near neighbours breed "easy calving Angus" to big on shoulders and gets nobody returning for a replacement bull.
C&G cows have the biggest calves here by far. Think they might be fine for March calving, but they aren't ideal for September.

@Martyn if calve value isn't a priority, on fb 2 days ago was a Galloway. Local to you. He would cover them no worries
 

Martyn

Member
Location
South west
C&G cows have the biggest calves here by far. Think they might be fine for March calving, but they aren't ideal for September.

@Martyn if calve value isn't a priority, on fb 2 days ago was a Galloway. Local to you. He would cover them no worries
We are finishing all beef so calf value is needed. What are ruby reds like?.I know fat suckler cows are nightmare but what about on dairy?
 

sidjon

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Location
EXMOOR
C&G cows have the biggest calves here by far. Think they might be fine for March calving, but they aren't ideal for September.

@Martyn if calve value isn't a priority, on fb 2 days ago was a Galloway. Local to you. He would cover them no worries
They would be extended lactation? Or spring calvers, Netherhall Jack we use for AI they also calved proper👍
 

choochter

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Location
aberdeenshire
You could try a Bazadaise bull. Bazadaise were first brought into this country from France in the late 1980s to be used on dairy cows because they have a reputation for easy calving. This is because the calves are born small with not much muscling apparent. The muscling develops quickly in the months after they're born.

You would get a good beef calf with the heifers suitable and in demand as beef cows.
There are at least a couple of Baz breeders in the south west.
Pm me if you want names.
 
You could try a Bazadaise bull. Bazadaise were first brought into this country from France in the late 1980s to be used on dairy cows because they have a reputation for easy calving. This is because the calves are born small with not much muscling apparent. The muscling develops quickly in the months after they're born.

You would get a good beef calf with the heifers suitable and in demand as beef cows.
There are at least a couple of Baz breeders in the south west.
Pm me if you want names.
Long gestation arnt they? Plus 285?
 

Little squeak

Member
Location
Lancashire
My simpathy for your problem, I use AI. Yes, it is a lot of extra work but you can use a bull with proven data. I always look for the easiest calving one in the book. As Henarar has written there is more difference within breeds than between them it is no use thinking that one breed is going to be any better than another. No bull breeder is ever going to tell you that they are selling you a bad calving bull ever.
 

choochter

Member
Location
aberdeenshire
Long gestation arnt they? Plus 285?
Average for a beef breed, 284 days, not sure on average gestation length for these calves, will ask and report back

Here's some photos of some baz sired calves out of hol/fri, born this year
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Jdunn55

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I keep wondering about simmental? Anyone have any experience of them? I would have thought they'd be easier than limo but still quality calves and the heifers would probably be wanted as suckler cows
 
It is not just the bull it is the season and management. I've had a lot of trouble this year. Just pulled a big blue 5 minutes ago. From what the vet tells me, the size of the calf is determined in the 6th & 7th month of pregnancy. A grassy late summer like this one will cause problems for cows calving now.
+1 Couldn't agree more.
 

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