cattleman123
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Yes agree but the big players always headge their bets by trading the futures...A lot of feed grain is bought up now at a fixed price just sat on farms
Yes agree but the big players always headge their bets by trading the futures...A lot of feed grain is bought up now at a fixed price just sat on farms
landcuiser more than arange rover arnt they?Special treatment for Range rover drivers .
As I only drive a Toyota I have to ring up for mine.
Just me thinking ahead with high fert price and a possibile lockdown coming with lockdowns in Europe looming plus Boris who changes his mind at a drop of a hat I wouldn’t be surprised. These higher livestock prices are a sniff of food shortages don’t think anything else they wouldn’t pay if they didn’t have to we all know that fine wellIs that on the cards or just pub talk?
It's world supply and demand driving the prices at the moment .Its all about the futures market...no grain changes hands...they buy today at X £s a ton and hopefully sell tomorrow at a higher price....when it drops they all start closing their positions and it goes down even more...
as has beef and lamb until brexit , been at a 20% discount to world prices for at least last 2 years , traders hedging their bets in case it went wrongIt's world supply and demand driving the prices at the moment .
UK wheat has been until now some of the cheapest available and
we will probably have to import at some stage of the season.
Glad to see better beef and sheep prices they were far too low for far too long.as has beef and lamb until brexit , been at a 20% discount to world prices for at least last 2 years , traders hedging their bets in case it went wrong
Yes i agree but the future traders love a rising market and they will drive it higherIt's world supply and demand driving the prices at the moment .
UK wheat has been until now some of the cheapest available and
we will probably have to import at some stage of the season.
I was there buying cows all the computers crashedWas just thinking the same had look or stopped looked again 15 mins still no go... Both rings
Creating a larger bubble which will at some time burst....but when? As a guide, if feed barley/wheat hit £260/300 a tonne by Feb, there will be a mass exodus of pig/poultry by May, leading to a slump in demand and egg on the face of the speculators with expiring futures in June/July, sitting on contracts nobody physically wants to buy. This uncertainty is being felt by compounders who will not be keen to commit to too much more forward, increasing the spot frenzy buying from unwilling arable producers waiting for the magic £300 they have their eyes on. They will be tipping wheat in inexperienced trader’s driveways when this eventually goes tits upYes i agree but the future traders love a rising market and they will drive it higher
How was that trade today?I was there buying cows all the computers crashed
All classes would Be up 5 to 10p.How was that trade today?
AHDB would disagreeas has beef and lamb until brexit , been at a 20% discount to world prices for at least last 2 years , traders hedging their bets in case it went wrong
Definitely nice too see higher prices. Makes you feel good about what we’re doing at any rate!!Glad to see better beef and sheep prices they were far too low for far too long.
How much will they be next year if they turn healthy profit at that??Lets sincerely hope that these 30kg store lambs @ 95 quid turn a nice profit we will all be smiling then come springtime even if the pellets are
£300 quid a ton,i do worry that there will be too may heavy hogs around as they up to now are having a very kind winter
I am guessing 44s will be around the 130 quid...or more to the point hopingHow much will they be next year if they turn healthy profit at that??
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Creating a larger bubble which will at some time burst....but when? As a guide, if feed barley/wheat hit £260/300 a tonne by Feb, there will be a mass exodus of pig/poultry by May, leading to a slump in demand and egg on the face of the speculators with expiring futures in June/July, sitting on contracts nobody physically wants to buy. This uncertainty is being felt by compounders who will not be keen to commit to too much more forward, increasing the spot frenzy buying from unwilling arable producers waiting for the magic £300 they have their eyes on. They will be tipping wheat in inexperienced trader’s driveways when this eventually goes tits up
The knock on effects are quite staggeringI admire your optimism.
The reality is that global supplies are low and global N prices look like reducing next year’s production already.
IF cereal prices stay high as a result, then the days of animal systems that need lots of concentrates are numbered imo.
You work for these firms?