All things Dairy

lazy farmer · May 6, 2022

vantage said:
Mole Valley have reduced my supplemantary feeding to zero, as of Monday. Feed promised today has still not arrived, never mind , think of the saving!

I’m sorry that is beyond shambolic. I would have told where to get off by now plus I’d be billing them for lost income.

In the pit · May 6, 2022

som farmer said:
View attachment 1034216 View attachment 1034217 View attachment 1034219 View attachment 1034223 View attachment 1034235
first 2 coming back for 2nd grazing, 25 units N after 1st round, N went on 7 days ago.
next, red clover ley, 40 units N, grazed till 3rd march, with sheep
next, cutting ley, slurry, and 40 units of N, grazed by sheep till 12 march, lot of clover in the bottom of the sward.
last one, should be grazing, but will now be cut, no slurry, no fert, sheep off mid feb, the chicory went a bit mental here, plenty clover though.
don't know about temp for clover, it hasn't stopped growing all winter, and the grass is getting its N from somewhere, because we haven't used very much.

Yea and mine looks like that but not supplying any nitrogen yet
Dig some up as I’ve taught you what to look for
Clover on them fields probably 10% or less

som farmer · May 6, 2022

In the pit said:
Yea and mine looks like that but not supplying any nitrogen yet
Dig some up as I’ve taught you what to look for
Clover on them fields probably 10%

no, clover is over 30%, according to agronomist,
and it isn't getting its N out of the bag,

In the pit · May 6, 2022

som farmer said:
no, clover is over 30%, according to agronomist,

Looking at the pictures you’ve posted it’s no where near .I’d get a new agronomist

In the pit · May 6, 2022

Clover at 30% you wouldn’t be able to see anything but clover

Sid · May 6, 2022

som farmer said:
no, clover is over 30%, according to agronomist,
and it isn't getting its N out of the bag,

Bollox

Sid · May 6, 2022

In the pit said:
Clover at 30% you wouldn’t be able to see anything but clover

And you'd be putting oil in the drinking water and stood at the gate biting your nails!

crashbox · May 6, 2022

From RB209...

Beef farmer · May 6, 2022

70% clover in a paddock to look at, is 30% of dm avalible.

Tirglas · May 6, 2022

Jdunn55 said:
I was just going off what I've been told to do on here, I thought I should be grazing covers when they hit 2800-3200kgdm/ha?

Blame TFF !!!! no seriously in at 3000 out at 1500 if you can make them work adjust rotation length, supplement and stocking rates to growth rates.

Cows do transition to grass well in general, I think a high proportion of fresh cows getting a BIG scoop of cake will be diluting your fats too maybe?

som farmer · May 6, 2022

he's producing the goods, we will have heavy 1st main cut, with 1/3 of usual fert
the day he doesn't, will be the day he goes, grass for us, is critical.
To be honest, this spring, l think we have some of the largest amounts of grass, l can remember, over the last 50 yrs.
Its the why, l haven't worked out. l would hate to think that l might have wasted several 100 tons of fert over that time, if it could have grown, without it, like this year.
There is a theory, from work done in Australia, that has deduced, that grass becomes reliant, on fert, to grow, and can be 'weaned' off it. Sounds daft, but you never know.

crashbox · May 6, 2022

I am far from a pro grazer, don't have sufficient platform for grass only diet, but I prefer to go in longer and leave longer residuals. Stops the soil baking so quick.
Also helps the herbs persist longer if you don't graze it to the deck.

Sid · May 6, 2022

som farmer said:
he's producing the goods, we will have heavy 1st main cut, with 1/3 of usual fert
the day he doesn't, will be the day he goes, grass for us, is critical.
To be honest, this spring, l think we have some of the largest amounts of grass, l can remember, over the last 50 yrs.
Its the why, l haven't worked out. l would hate to think that l might have wasted several 100 tons of fert over that time, if it could have grown, without it, like this year.
There is a theory, from work done in Australia, that has deduced, that grass becomes reliant, on fert, to grow, and can be 'weaned' off it. Sounds daft, but you never know.

Producing the goods...wasted several 100 tons of fert

In the pit · May 6, 2022

Sid said:
And you'd be putting oil in the drinking water and stood at the gate biting your nails!

Used to go down the field to get cows in and they be completely white with clover
Water tanks had a system with bloat ease pumped into them
Cows would still get blown but the walk back to the parlour would let them down
Biggest thing was keeping cows full and not letting them get anywhere near hungry

crashbox · May 6, 2022

In the pit said:
Used to go down the field to get cows in and they be completely white with clover
Water tanks had a system with bloat ease pumped into them
Cows would still get blown but the walk back to the parlour would let them down
Biggest thing was keeping cows full and not letting them get anywhere near hungry

Old school told me bloat is worse when the wind's in the East.
Cold wind makes 'em hungrier.

In the pit · May 6, 2022

I think p&k is very easily overlooked in the growing of grass
Nitrogen provides a very quick blast but p&k take the long way round

Sid · May 6, 2022

In the pit said:
I think p&k is very easily overlooked in the growing of grass
Nitrogen provides a very quick blast but p&k take the long way round

And Lime!!

supercow · May 6, 2022

last week

distant memory after today’s rain 🌧

Martyn · May 6, 2022

Frustrating, looks like rain on the Moors, not a drop here

som farmer · May 6, 2022

Sid said:
Producing the goods...wasted several 100 tons of fert

that's the bit that hurts
but, one is never to old to learn, and, if if correct, chosen the perfect yr to occur.
our neighbour is organic, taken on some very hungry sand, his grass was very light green. That ground will eat fym.

All things Dairy

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Attachments

Member

0 %

Up to 25%

25-50%

50-75%

75-100%

100% I’ve had enough of farming!

Share this page