Mr Mackay
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Excellent
The war in Ukraine...
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Important in what way?
Danllan
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If you feel the need to ask, either you're just doing so for devilry, or wouldn't understand the reason.
I feel the need to ask why a thread in an obscure part (don't come up on new posts) of a farming forum about a war between two countries thousands of miles away is important because I want to know why it is important ?If you feel the need to ask, either you're just doing so for devilry, or wouldn't understand the reason.
Not for any other reason
So now try a sensible reply that can't be to hard even for you
Big Difference between them, good to point that out.
The doers of Jihad were indeed something completly different. Freedom loving people worthy of support, to bad the Taliban ousted them and housed that nasty dude bin laden. The mujahideen wouldnt have sheltered such a nasty fellow.
Cause the first war benefitted the wests plans that why nobody cared, even gave them Satellite data. Nice example.
When Saddam invaded Kuwait the iraqi soldiers took babys out of an incubator, imagine that but hey that was a lie.
Weapons of Mass Destruction were also a lie.
Hey if it fits the narrative and broader geopolitical goals it seems to be ok to lie a little bit.
Well who takes a court serious that gets blackmailed by the worlds sole Superpower, that law is a joke.
Might makes right.
imagine if the russians had such a law or the chinese.
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Couple of different articles online in the last couple of days saying that Putin is effectively micromanaging Russian forces in Ukraine. effectively taking decisions that are properly the responsibility of a Major or a Lt Colonel etc.
renewablejohn
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I like many others have more to do all day than be a keyboard warrior surfing the internet for snippets of information that the mainstream news channels do not provide. I think this thread has been very good at finding snippets which can then be put in context with further research. What I can do without is having to sift through the historic garbage of previous wars and would far rather concentrate on the current war in Ukraine and its implications.
Ignore recent history at your peril or if you are hell bent on remaining ignorant. Take much of it with a pinch of salt but to think it is not relevent to the present crisis you have got your head firmly stuck in the sand.
Russia`s present venture will cripple it financially yet again and when they have had enough they will withdraw and the whole cycle will begin again. Remmember Hitler`s rise to power after WW1 or is that too advanced for you?
Best start your own forum, with your own forum rules, and screen out members you don't want to join then.............
caveman
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Discussing how Europe has got into this position is very relevant. Its probably the way to see a way out of it.
Unless, of course, one wants to take the easy way out and blame the whole shebang on one man.
Unless, of course, one wants to take the easy way out and blame the whole shebang on one man.
renewablejohn
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Really. Its because Putin has history of previous wars that we are in this mess in the first place. If he had any grasp at all on the new technology he would have realised tanks are useless against modern technology of guided armaments and drones. Instead he believed the flat lands of Ukraine was ideal for WW2 tank warfare and is now suffering the consequences.
renewablejohn
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No just another TFF thread to ignore which is a shame as some of the snippets had been quite informative.
putin would be proud of that idea
Sounds more and more like Hitler every day.
is any of us discussing it important though, are you Boris ? or Biden ?
anyone what has this thread achieved to make it so important that it must not deviate ?
just looked on new posts and there is a thread about drum and disc mowers, that has to be more important on a farming forum, it may actually achieve something
Putin's reasons for the war are partly the history of the Ukraine that he believes should be part of mother Russia going back beyond the ussr, it has been pointed out that most countries could use that excuse to start a war, why that is irrelevant to the discussion I'm not sure. Many times people say ignore history and it will repeat itself. Personally I learn quite a bit when people bring up facts I didn't know.
From the very start this war has been unique in the fact that if anyone dare question what was going on they were immediately branded a Putin stooge, governments of all countries were made to look blindingly stupid by being forced to clap rapturously every time Zelensky appeared on a video for fear of being called anti Ukrainian.
No one questions the fact that the US cared very little that Putin was looking like invading & in fact I'm told actively encouraged it, no one questions why now the US after already spending $20 billion are throwing another $30 billion at it, American generosity or guilt for instigating the whole damm mess?
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Mujahideen means “those engaged in jihad”. The Taliban (the Students (as in religious)) where just a more fanatical group of Mujahideen fighters that became the dominant force.