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Northeastfarmer · May 21, 2022

Poorbuthappy said:
How do they handle them running round a ring?
South Molton sell through the ring and it's not often the buyers bother to chase the sheep round the ring to handle them.
Old employer used to say you know they're pushing if they handle them.

I dunno I’ve only sold them through a narrow race

Chae1 · May 21, 2022

Skintagain said:
That’s going some.
Thimble in landrover fits £100 in now!!

Wife was £149 to fill her x5 yesterday.

Can see these gas guzzlers not being worth much soon.

Aspiring Peasants · May 21, 2022

harperfarmer said:
I would say the vast majority of lambs south of Derbyshire are sold in pens. All fine selling lambs through a ring if well set up and plenty of staff, but weighing, penning and then running 2/3000 lambs back round through a ring is a lot of work. The only pens I don't like are Melton's as they are deep and narrow. It's easy enough in most pens to handle lambs and push them round. Can guarantee the worst one will always make its way to the front of the pen.

If you've got 20 lambs in a pen and you want to sell them as say 8,8,4 how do you do that if they're all lumped in together? It's not unusual in the ring if 20 come in for buyers to ask for one to be taken out. You can't show the lambs properly if they're all jammed in together. I would have thought the buyers will bid to the price of the poorest in the pen. If the mart is well organised it will be just as quick going through a ring as along a gantry and a lot easier for the auctioneer and clerk if they're not on their feet for 3 hours

Henarar · May 21, 2022

Skintagain said:
You see it at a farm sale all psychology man sits on tractor all sale and doesn’t let anyone in it it puts some folk off

Little bit different there is only one divers seat on a tractor, be a fat bugger to block the veiw of a pen of sheep

Chae1 · May 21, 2022

Muff diver?

Henarar · May 21, 2022

Aspiring Peasants said:
If you've got 20 lambs in a pen and you want to sell them as say 8,8,4 how do you do that if they're all lumped in together? It's not unusual in the ring if 20 come in for buyers to ask for one to be taken out. You can't show the lambs properly if they're all jammed in together. I would have thought the buyers will bid to the price of the poorest in the pen. If the mart is well organised it will be just as quick going through a ring as along a gantry and a lot easier for the auctioneer and clerk if they're not on their feet for 3 hours

Just mark them, simples

Skintagain · May 21, 2022

Henarar said:
Little bit different there is only one divers seat on a tractor, be a fat bugger to block the veiw of a pen of sheep

It’s all about pschology look into my eyes

Henarar · May 21, 2022

Northeastfarmer said:
I dunno I’ve only sold them through a narrow race

Only so many can stand round that though

Henarar · May 21, 2022

Skintagain said:
It’s all about pschology look into my eyes

Just ignore the silly buggers

Northeastfarmer · May 21, 2022

Chae1 said:
Muff diver?

wrong thread? Mumsnet?

cattleman123 · May 21, 2022

Electricfencer said:
Change of subject. Anyone else thinking of getting rid of a load of older (4crop +) ewes and replacing them with home bred ewe lambs. Culls look to be a good trade and smaller stores in the £70’s that can run dry for 12 months. That’s what I’m thinking, cut the breeding flock by 25% next year saving feed and see what next year brings.

I think we have to carry on the same trying to guess the market etc i find it rarely works, alway something happens that you never saw coming

Jonp · May 21, 2022

In a pen of 15 any that are "special" are marked by auctioneer and sold separately at Monmouth.

Henarar said:
Just mark them, simples

Poorbuthappy · May 21, 2022

Jonp said:
In a pen of 15 any that are "special" are marked by auctioneer and sold separately at Monmouth.

Same at Exeter/ Sedge

Estate fencing. · May 21, 2022

Aspiring Peasants said:
If you've got 20 lambs in a pen and you want to sell them as say 8,8,4 how do you do that if they're all lumped in together? It's not unusual in the ring if 20 come in for buyers to ask for one to be taken out. You can't show the lambs properly if they're all jammed in together. I would have thought the buyers will bid to the price of the poorest in the pen. If the mart is well organised it will be just as quick going through a ring as along a gantry and a lot easier for the auctioneer and clerk if they're not on their feet for 3 hours

What you do is ram as many a will possibly fit into the pen, as the buyers are distracted going up the opposite row you jump in the pen and push all the lean and poor lambs to the back and pull the good forward. But as you can imagine the lean one that you wish you hadn’t put in managed somehow the make his way to the front for all the buyers to put there hand on.

Jonp · May 21, 2022

Electricfencer said:
What you do is ram as many a will possibly fit into the pen, as the buyers are distracted going up the opposite row you jump in the pen and push all the lean and poor lambs to the back and pull the good forward. But as you can imagine the lean one that you wish you hadn’t put in managed somehow the make his way to the front for all the buyers to put there hand on.

You'll see the old school regular buyers in the pens feeling everything way before sale time...they're not daft! Others fall for it!

Mc115reed · May 21, 2022

Electricfencer said:
Change of subject. Anyone else thinking of getting rid of a load of older (4crop +) ewes and replacing them with home bred ewe lambs. Culls look to be a good trade and smaller stores in the £70’s that can run dry for 12 months. That’s what I’m thinking, cut the breeding flock by 25% next year saving feed and see what next year brings.

Iv culled 50 out of 300 ewes in the last 2 weeks, going through my last batch today for Monday, will probably be another 20-30
Too go… they’ve averaged me £130 a head so far… going too Hereford on the 31st looks like there’s a lot of ewe hoggs in, if I can get 70-80 ewe hoggs for £130-150 a head, plus the 50 ewe hoggs I have back for replacements anyways I’ll have almost halved the age of my flock for this tupping

DieselRob · May 21, 2022

Henarar said:
how do they stop someone bidding ? the auctioneer is stood up high on the raceway and will see someone stood back bidding, I know I have done it much to a few peoples confusion

As others have said it’s the psychological effect. Not saying it happens as much anymore as I haven’t seen it in the livestock markets. I did see it at a land auction with a field bordering a farm, no one else bid against that farmer but I’m sure the auctioneer took a couple of bids off the wall to get it to the reserve. Lot 2 that wasn’t connected to his farm went on to make 2k/ac more with lots of bidders

Jonp · May 21, 2022

Chae1 said:
Wife was £149 to fill her x5 yesterday.

Can see these gas guzzlers not being worth much soon.

My truck indicates by itself when I approach a petrol station.

Henarar · May 21, 2022

DieselRob said:
As others have said it’s the psychological effect. Not saying it happens as much anymore as I haven’t seen it in the livestock markets. I did see it at a land auction with a field bordering a farm, no one else bid against that farmer but I’m sure the auctioneer took a couple of bids off the wall to get it to the reserve. Lot 2 that wasn’t connected to his farm went on to make 2k/ac more with lots of bidders

so where did the bloke stand to stop anyone else bidding at a land auction ?

Henarar · May 21, 2022

and if the auctioneer took bids off the wall then all you had to do was stand by the wall

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