Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
This may be fine in the UAE, but in the UK is liable to leads to the landlord going to jail
Best way to deal with a non paying tenant in rented farmhouse
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glasshouse
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- lothians
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- Northumberland
Getting an order from the court is not the end of the proceedings as you suggest. The court order will name a day by which the tenant should have vacated the house. Once this date has lapsed, and they are still resident, you may then apply to have possession returned to you by the court bailiffs (ie. have the bailiffs turf them out).
The stuff you mention such as changing locks, stopping utilities etc is NOT allowed and could land you in hot water. You’d certainly make life difficult for yourself during court proceedings.
There is one legal way to get tenants to leave without going through a court process and that is by offering them a sum of money to go. (Ie. Bribery, although I don’t think you can call it that because ‘bribery’ isn’t quite legal…
Being a landlord isn’t easy, and it’s due to get more difficult with EPC-C, losing section 21etc. Anyone thinking of becoming a landlord should probably do some online training with the NRLA, to make sure they don’t shoot themself in the foot from the start.
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- Northumberland
Good? Is all property theft?
- Location
- Fife
From end of tenancy agreement to eviction by bailiffs took me 28 months (partially due to covid moratorium).
I did attempt to expedite the process by offering to pay the deposit and first month's rent on a new property, but couldn't find a landlord to accept them without a guarantor.
Fortunately I had legal fees insurance. Withdrawal of Section 21, and requirement to have rental properties to a certain EPC level makes residential BTL massively less attractive.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
What is section 21?
- Location
- Fife
Non fault evictions.
Now tenants can only be evicted against their will if they are 2 months or more behind with rent, or if they are substantially damaging the property.
If unpaid rent is used as grounds for eviction, at any point during the legal process paying sufficient funds to bring them back under 2 months arrears will halt proceedings. Landlord will then have to wait until they're over 2 months in arrears again, and start from scratch once more.
Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
So perfect for those of a certain type to give the landlord the run around with hassle and expense yet nothing can be done about it
Good tenants are more important than ever.
farmerm
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- Location
- Shropshire
I have a ex builder neighbour with a number of rentals of various quality.. I am not sure exactly how he goes about it without getting locked up but having seen a few bonfires of none paying tenants possessions I get the impression such tenants don't hold out very long.
serf
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- warwickshire
You missed the last paragraph off....
' so WTF would anyone want to be a landlord now ,
fekem let the council sort peoples accommodation and see how short they will be without private landlords '
- Location
- somerset
lets face it, with inflation, and recession looming, and food and energy, have to be paid, both of which are driving inflation, there will be 1,000's of tenants around the country, that will be unable to pay the rent. Some, its their own fault, cars, holidays, phones etc, take to much, of their income, others will be genuine people, who through events, have come into debt.
How do you cope with it ? No idea, its just sad, but guv does have to deal with it, pictures in the press, of tenants being evicted, will rapidly bring a guv response, rent freeze, max rents, harder to evict tenants, or even inability to evict, as per covid. In essence, the min wage, actually needs to be higher, unpopular though, £10 hr, doesn't go far.
How do you cope with it ? No idea, its just sad, but guv does have to deal with it, pictures in the press, of tenants being evicted, will rapidly bring a guv response, rent freeze, max rents, harder to evict tenants, or even inability to evict, as per covid. In essence, the min wage, actually needs to be higher, unpopular though, £10 hr, doesn't go far.
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
Section 21 hasn’t been withdrawn yet. So far we don’t know precisely what will replace it. On the face of it the government’s proposal will increase landlords risks which inevitably will translate into higher rents. That’s what it will mean for my tenants, instead of managing the properties myself I will employ a managing agent and increase the rent to cover the fee.
- Location
- Northumberland
Approximately 20 months here.
I offered my tenants approximately 6 months worth of rent to go (both cold hard cash and dropping rent owed) but they declined, with hindsight probably because they would find it hard to rent elsewhere (given the sheaf of final demands for credit cards etc which continue to arrive).
Fee-wise, it wasn’t too bad I don’t think; around the 1K mark (solicitor handled it all including the ‘bribe’ for about £600, which I thought was good value).
Im not letting it out again; a cottage at low EPC-E would need EVERYTHING doing- probably costing 150K+. Instead I will take back possession of the other half of the semi too and will look to put the money towards a full rebuild to get a proper 21stC house rather than a small-roomed compromise.
Needless to say, I will not put the new house into long-term-let (nice view, quiet location near Alnwick 🏝).
Ifvthe govt of the day wants to get rid of S21, and wants landlords to insulate to the rafters then it’s a F*** Off from me. Most private landlords are BTL in it for the investment. If the sums change, the houses will not be available to rent at a rate that is in any way affordable.
By affordable, I mean that I’ve been letting my two 3-bed cottages for £450 and £500 pcm - I’ve erred on the low side as they are fairly difficult to heat and get damp if not ventilated due to having cold walls.
ShooTa
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- Denbighshire - In the vale of Clwyd!
similar boat here with cottage view... its a low epc atm but it would need serious $$$s to get it to C ... and thats just not worth it... itll be better as animal winter houseing than that.
- Location
- Fife
I've already taken that approach. Accepted an offer last month.
Also if cut off the water and someone in the property is pregnant expect to do time at her majesties pleasure... be care full listening to criminal solutions if it makes you a criminal too
- Location
- Northumberland
I’d be doing that too, if the cottages weren’t in the middle of the farm.
Any idea what your buyers intentions are; live there, BTL etc?
Makes you wonder why air b&b is so popular, one months normal tenants rent for each week that you let it & surety that you get your property back in good order at the end of each week.
Stupid Government tinkering with tenants rights without any responsibilities has made renting out to tenants far more risky resulting in less houses to rent with higher rents being charged just in case.
Luckily holiday accommodation doesn't incur such rules.
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- Fife
First time buyers. No chain, agent reckons I'll have cash in my hand in approx 8 weeks.