Eartha Kitt
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UK farmers might but the tax payer would not.
Fertiliser Price Tracker
- Thread starter TFF
- Start date
- Location
- Huntingdon
Until such time that there is imported product available at below the cost of production here and all of a sudden the wheels start falling off the plan.
C B
- Location
- Forfar,Angus,Scotland
Surely this would be better for the UK as we would have a guaranteed supply of carbon Dioxide as well so wouldn't be held to ransom for this either.
Eartha Kitt
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Only one plant is required to achieve this and I suspect the UK gov will be looking at other, more sustainable ways to source CO2 going forward.
- Location
- Forfar,Angus,Scotland
Take out the importer/distributor/merchant cut and I would think there would be quite a bit of fat could be trimmed to keep it competitive.
- Location
- Huntingdon
How much margin do you think there is typically out of interest
county down
Member
- Location
- downpatrick
farmers could not run a raffle
Are they really so stupid that they couldn't predict that their "prices pulled on Friday" bulls**t wouldn't bite them on the arse?
I've actively avoided their (Yara / Kemira / Growhow, latterly CF) products since 2008 when the nonsense started, in favour of imported N; and while it's sad to see Ince go to the scrapyard, it's not surprising that they're not selling the plant complete, as it's the nature of a monopoly to reduce competition and restrict supply at all cost. It's heartening to see that the import side of the equation has upset their ambitions.
"The Company’s AN fertiliser sales volumes to domestic customers have fallen by nearly 30 percent since the 2017-18 season due to intense competition from lower-cost imports. As a result, when both plants are producing AN even at minimum levels, the Company has not been able to profitably sell the entire volume domestically over the last four years. "
I've actively avoided their (Yara / Kemira / Growhow, latterly CF) products since 2008 when the nonsense started, in favour of imported N; and while it's sad to see Ince go to the scrapyard, it's not surprising that they're not selling the plant complete, as it's the nature of a monopoly to reduce competition and restrict supply at all cost. It's heartening to see that the import side of the equation has upset their ambitions.
"The Company’s AN fertiliser sales volumes to domestic customers have fallen by nearly 30 percent since the 2017-18 season due to intense competition from lower-cost imports. As a result, when both plants are producing AN even at minimum levels, the Company has not been able to profitably sell the entire volume domestically over the last four years. "
It's always the failures and
Every county in the land has them, the 'businessmen' who nominate each other on to executive positions, moving continuously around FCB's and Quangos like a wheel of misfortune.
sure does look that way Eartha.
good job there are plenty of import options to fill the potential shortfall; both AN, UAN and Urea being widely available through myriad port facilities around the UK
also a relatively robust and enthusiastic existing supply network to take up the slack
- Location
- Lincolnshire
UK govt loves the idea of importing all this nasty industrial stuff.
whitefox
Member
- Location
- central scotland(the very wet bit)
unfortunately that also includes food,thats been grown with all this nasty industrial stuff
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Yup. Let's hope that policy doesn't come and bite them on the arse.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
It's a rum thing to say but the sooner people start to go hungry the better!!!!!
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Dont want to see anyone starve but i hope a few main foods get really short this winter to concentate a few minds in goverment
livestock 1
Member
Such a shame when so many of us are wanting to produce more and enjoy doing it but constrained in many ways including financially
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Producing less is more profitable, they dont make way too many tractors that would have be sold off at £10k each.