Janet Hughes DEFRA Missing in action?

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Hampton

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Facts are easy to make up
Was told today at some trials that agriculture via fertiliser is reponsible for 78% of all Uk nitrous oxide emissions.
www.newscientist.com

Nitrogen oxides in car exhaust kill tens of thousands in UK

Evidence is mounting that NOx emissions don't just make us ill by boosting the production of ozone and tiny particles – they directly damage our health too
www.newscientist.com www.newscientist.com
Well clearly that was wrong as the above article proves.
Not sure anyone has died from nitrous oxide in the soil
 
Bury the Trash

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Hampton said:
Facts are easy to make up
Was told today at some trials that agriculture via fertiliser is reponsible for 78% of all Uk nitrous oxide emissions.
www.newscientist.com

Nitrogen oxides in car exhaust kill tens of thousands in UK

Evidence is mounting that NOx emissions don't just make us ill by boosting the production of ozone and tiny particles – they directly damage our health too
www.newscientist.com www.newscientist.com
Well clearly that was wrong as the above article proves.
Not sure anyone has died from nitrous oxide in the soil
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and with (if) more DD use that will only increase on a lot of damp (to say the least ) a lot of the time and self compacting soils , oh dear.
 
holwellcourtfarm

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delilah said:
Who is at Groundswell today for the big reveal then ?
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You'd have been proud of George Monbiot yesterday.

He declared that there is far too much concentration of power in a few corporate hands in our food system (y)

Then he said we MUST have strong anti-trust laws and weak intellectual property laws to ensure public benefit from new food technologies whereas we currently have the opposite. (y)

Then he went on to announce that "precision fermented synthetic protein" is the future, completely ignoring the fact it is only being developed (using corporate money) so that the entire global protein supply can be controlled by the few individuals holding the IP to the technology :rolleyes::poop:
 
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holwellcourtfarm said:
You'd have been proud of George Monbiot yesterday.

He declared that there is far too much concentration of power in a few corporate hands in our food system (y)

Then he said we MUST have strong anti-trust laws and weak intellectual property laws to ensure public benefit from new food technologies whereas we currently have the opposite. (y)

Then he went on to announce that "precision fermented synthetic protein" is the future, completely ignoring the fact it is only being developed (using corporate money) so that the entire global protein supply can be controlled by the free individuals holding the IP to the technology :rolleyes::poop:
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And Cargills dragged everyone back to reality at lunchtime today🤣🤑
 
Humble Village Farmer

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holwellcourtfarm said:
You'd have been proud of George Monbiot yesterday.

He declared that there is far too much concentration of power in a few corporate hands in our food system (y)

Then he said we MUST have strong anti-trust laws and weak intellectual property laws to ensure public benefit from new food technologies whereas we currently have the opposite. (y)

Then he went on to announce that "precision fermented synthetic protein" is the future, completely ignoring the fact it is only being developed (using corporate money) so that the entire global protein supply can be controlled by the free individuals holding the IP to the technology :rolleyes::poop:
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Apart from that I thought he talked an awful lot of sense...
 
holwellcourtfarm

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Humble Village Farmer said:
Apart from that I thought he talked an awful lot of sense...
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That's his modus operandi. He lulls you into agreeing with him by using lots of statements that you can agree with then distorts the science or selectively quotes biased studies (or just commonplace lies) to make his real point seem reasonable.

He is a very good orator though and does get much right.
 
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topground said:
www.gov.uk

Environment Secretary shares agricultural plans at Groundswell

George Eustice delivered a speech at Groundswell setting out future farming plans, including the opening of the Sustainable Farming Incentive.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
Useless speech. Delivered by Useless or was it Eustice delivers useless speech
Make up your own mind by reading the link.
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Now we’ve started with soil, because soil is absolutely at the heart of successful profitable farming. And it is also, if we get things right, the first part of our ecosystem that will start to recover. So I have farmers who’ve adopted min-till or no-till systems, they find that within just three years the earthworm population can as much as triple. We know that the soil reacts quickly and we know that soil is absolutely central to successful farm production. That is why it’s where we’re starting with the first module of the SFI.

Remind us @Janet Hughes Defra , what happened to 'rewarding existing good practice' being a central tenet of ELMS ?

30 years of continuous WW here. Ploughed every year. SOM levels that your boffins were befuddled by.

There is no public good in using public money to meddle with our cropped land. You have a week to get that.
 
steveR

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delilah said:
got this far:

We’re about to launch the Sustainable Farming Incentive in a few days’ time, on 30 June
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"I wanted to start by admitting my great fear with this journey that we’re on around our future policy. My own officials will be very aware of this. We might have something that’s conceptually very good, that works, is the right thing to do, but then something will go wrong on delivery. And there’s a reason for that. That is because the ecosystem and our environment doesn’t always play to the rules that we set for it administratively, from the centre. It’s complex.

Are recalcitrant Farmers considered to be an ecosystem or environmental problem....??
 
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