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Does anyone know what drove breeders to produce the bigger heads in the first place? And the peelers?
£££Does anyone know what drove breeders to produce the bigger heads in the first place? And the peelers?
Once they existed, yes, but what made them create that type before they knew every Tom, Dick and Harry would buy them?
With the heads it was a gradual process. Consistent premium over time for that type. ET sped up the process. There’s some evidence of pushback. Heavy headed truffle hunters have definitely gone out of fashion.Once they existed, yes, but what made them create that type before they knew every Tom, Dick and Harry would buy them?
I reckon they did when it turned up at random. But when they started chasing just the peel it wasn’t as strong an indicator.Peelers are supposed to have better bodies/conformation and leave tighter skinned lambs...
No sure the reasoning behind big heids - but in the show ring heads are always important
Is there any correlation between the oversized heads and the Texel throat syndrome?With the heads it was a gradual process. Consistent premium over time for that type. ET sped up the process. There’s some evidence of pushback. Heavy headed truffle hunters have definitely gone out of fashion.
Peelers were driven by commercial buyers in Skipton giving a premium for shearlings with open necks, John Mellin judging in Ireland and buying a peeler Castleknowe Matchmaker for 30,000gns to breed them, causing what had been a fault taking off as a desired trait.
Is there any correlation between the oversized heads and the Texel throat syndrome?
Do the oversized heads tend to have short necks?No - that's linked to short necks
Do the oversized heads tend to have short necks?
Half the bother is you get folk trying to buy hill tups at Lanark, Stirling and Newton(Ayr) stuffed to hell. Only genuine hill tups will be at Dalmally and Fort William, and as keenly bid for as their stuffed wooly counterparts by those who know. Been a marked improvement in horn over the last few years but still a good bit of work to be done.It's getting hard to keep them alive long enough to tup the hill ewes
Then to sell the offspring you MUST invest in a set of these
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Wind farm money has an awful lot to answer for
I think,generally,they do so maybe a higher incidence of Texel throat.Do the oversized heads tend to have short necks?
Used to get good Northumberland types that had a chance of surviving a hill and made a good cross with smaller Lanark type ewes, but they're getting hard to find now tooHalf the bother is you get folk trying to buy hill tups at Lanark, Stirling and Newton(Ayr) stuffed to hell. Only genuine hill tups will be at Dalmally and Fort William, and as keenly bid for as their stuffed wooly counterparts by those who know. Been a marked improvement in horn over the last few years but still a good bit of work to be done.
Well to show what we are up against! a few years ago a French judge was asked to officiate at the Highland, he chose a good sound but commercial type, and the comment from ringside? by one of the golden circle who produces heads to die for (at least the ewe will) what? that's a fecking giraffe.I think,generally,they do so maybe a higher incidence of Texel throat.
I'd agree with that. Big head tends to be found on a short neck and significantly higher risk of texel throat.I think,generally,they do so maybe a higher incidence of Texel throat.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think the comment referred to the shearling ram, but if that was a pug to you and still a giraffe to someone else, my, it must have been some sheep.I saw him when he judged and he picked a pug
No, when the man who made the giraffe comment judged he picked a pugBeauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think the comment referred to the shearling ram, but if that was a pug to you and still a giraffe to someone else, my, it must have been some sheep.
I don't think it is. There will probably be some of "the big boys" of the pedigree world on here and will realise that some people are laughing at them behind their backs and may make them have a think about the bigger picture. If they are that good at their job surely they can have courage in choices.This is such a sad read.