Buying a tractor, what to expect?

nonemouse

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North yorks
Very grateful for the replies but nobody answered any of my questions.
What is normal warranty on a new tractor and/or on a used but fairly new tractor.
Is trading in or private sale of existing tractor best? Or is that unanswerable anyway.
Normal warranty on new is just the 12 months.
Probably do best selling your old privately - just depends if it’s worth while to you with the extra hassle it brings
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
That would just fit in the OPs budget, 75hp, forward/reverse shuttle 12 speed gearbox no splitter, 3 spools, 4wd, 2 speed PTO, air con, air seat, Bluetooth DAB radio - no ad blue
I can find a bit better than that in budget. I don't mean there's anything wrong with it but there are higher spec ones out there.
My views on add blue are avoid it even if it means having an older tractor (the newer Farmalls have addblue), is that a sensible approach? Seems add blue is just something more likely to go expensively wrong for little benefit to anybody.
 

rookswood

Member
Location
Gatwick
Very grateful for the replies but nobody answered any of my questions.
What is normal warranty on a new tractor and/or on a used but fairly new tractor.
Is trading in or private sale of existing tractor best? Or is that unanswerable anyway.
As said most new machines will come with at least 12 months warranty, with the option to extend. Some times manufacturers with have deals on extra warranty from time to time.
For used tractor it depends really depends on the dealer and age when warranty is concerned.
Selling privately you will probably get a better price but more hassle, some times it's easier to trade it in.
 

jd6420s

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
Usually for a new tractor you will get a one year warranty which is poor in comparison to what car manufacturers provide. You can extend the warranty for a price.
I got a pretty good used tractor last year but they only provided a 50 hr warranty which wasn't much. Nothing has gone wrong with it though.
It seems a good budget for a loader tractor though so you should be able to get something pretty reliable.
I was going to trade the old tractor in but decided to keep it because the dealer wasn't offering much. Didn't want a load of tyre kickers coming round for a private sale either. Happy with my decision so far.
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Very grateful for the replies but nobody answered any of my questions.
What is normal warranty on a new tractor and/or on a used but fairly new tractor.
Is trading in or private sale of existing tractor best? Or is that unanswerable anyway.
1-5 years warranty on a new.

Low hr Used is 3-6 months, limited warranty...?

Trade-in preferences will surely depend on machine etc etc ;)
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Very grateful for the replies but nobody answered any of my questions.
What is normal warranty on a new tractor and/or on a used but fairly new tractor.
Is trading in or private sale of existing tractor best? Or is that unanswerable anyway.
Well obviously sh is more risk but if you buy from the
Trade it has to be as described on the day by law.
If you got sold somehing by a dealer fully serviced and
described in full working order with no known faults and
the engine blew up within a reasonable period of time or
not many hours use then you should be covered .
 

___\0/___

Member
Location
SW Scotland
Ask for at least a three year warranty(check what they cover after year 1 as some are not that great), tractors that do low hours sometimes don't uncover problems. Delete ad blue once out of warranty if constantly doing less than 20 minutes in the tractor.
 

Limcrazy

Member
Expect plenty of half truths anything better will be a bonus.
Selling privately out of a farm business you legally have to stand over it.
Something like a jd 30 series or jd6120m would do well.
 

nonemouse

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North yorks
I can find a bit better than that in budget. I don't mean there's anything wrong with it but there are higher spec ones out there.
My views on add blue are avoid it even if it means having an older tractor (the newer Farmalls have addblue), is that a sensible approach? Seems add blue is just something more likely to go expensively wrong for little benefit to anybody.
If your looking at new, you will be limited to sub 75hp (ish) if you want to avoid ad blue.
I’m sure you could get bigger/higher spec if you look hard or go 2nd hand. But the Farmall 75 pictured was new last month about the best fit to the spec I needed and was available to get delivered before end of tax year.
 

killie_cowboy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Scottish Borders
What tractor do you have at the moment? Mf rep mentioned to me just before Christmas when he came round with calendar that a 90hp 2wd mf 4709 was just over 30k so I was thinking a 4wd would be somewhere near your 40k budget that would have aircon radio air seat etc. I really like the simplicity of them in the cab.
Chinese built?
Yeah I'd give the Massey globals a miss, made in china. Not well made at all. Not worthy of the Massey brand.

Try McCormick or case, they're quite popular on the smaller end of the scale.
 

alomy75

Member
I am looking to buy a tractor and have never actually bought one from a dealer before and never a fairly new one.
Looking at £30-40k, maybe second hand not much use or even a few new ones around in budget, I only need a sub 100hp model.
So what sort of warranty should I expect? Would it be 12 months parts and labour on new and a couple of months on used?
If I buy from say 70 miles away is delivery going to be extra and how much?
Should I trade in my old one against it or better to sell private? Should be £15k ish on my existing one.
If I buy used and the engine and gearbox explode after 3 months am I just stuffed as out of warranty?
Sorry for the newbie questions but would appreciate some guidance from more experienced folk.
All of your questions are quite sensible and can be factored into the deal. For example I will give you x pounds delivered with a 3 month warranty. Stick your used tractor in brown and co timed auction. Avoid new in that size/budget as older will probably be better made and more reliable.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
If your looking at new, you will be limited to sub 75hp (ish) if you want to avoid ad blue.
I’m sure you could get bigger/higher spec if you look hard or go 2nd hand. But the Farmall 75 pictured was new last month about the best fit to the spec I needed and was available to get delivered before end of tax year.
One I saw in particular was an 85C, new/unused but older model so no add blue. If it was a genuine advert.
Looks like I might be sorted now anyway, see what next week brings and thanks for the comments, they have helped. (y)
 
A slightly different view on adblue, but some earlier adblue systems are fairly basic and more reliable than the latest systems. Another thought is that instead of adblue there was a few years where to meet emissions some manufacturers relied heavily on egr. I'd rather have a sh tractor with a basic adblue system which could be remapped off in the worst case than one which cycles most of its exhaust gas back through the engine.
 

oil barron

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
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I just got a work master 75 for pottering about in which was right on £40 with loader, bucket, pallet forks and back blade. I was going to buy a second hand “real” tractor but this is nice and low for going around trees, the power shuttle is better than anything second hand from new Holland for the last 20 years, it has 1 year warranty and is light enough to go on the back of a trailer behind my pick up. Also being 75hp it doesn’t need add blue. It does have the filter thing though so you need to keep the revs up, which feels right in a 3cyl anyway.
For your questions
1. 1 year warranty on a utility tractor / 2 years on a proper tractor / negotiable on second hand.
2. I would expect delivery for a new tractor. Probably have to pay for second hand.
3. Depends how desireable your trade in is. If it’s a John Deere with 2000hrs you could sell it yourself all day long. But if it’s more of a specialist type thing you might struggle to find a buyer. You will get more selling it, but you will have to put the hours in to do it, they don’t sell themselves.
 

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